MKV Playback in MC issues

Last post 02-09-2010 2:36 PM by alton987. 17 replies.
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  • 02-08-2010 12:41 PM

    MKV Playback in MC issues

    Hey all,

    I am having difficulty getting MKV files to playback with sound. Without installing any codecs I am able to play the mkv files in Windows Media Center but they do not have any sound. I have installed Haali Media Splitter, suggested over at Windows7HTPC.com, but that does not seem to do the trick.

    Relevant hardware I have:
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Motherboard
    PNY GTX 275 2688MB Video Card (HDMI output to AV Receiver)

    Any advice?

    P.S. These are MKV files that I made using MakeMKV, when I created the files I did select both the HD sound and DD or DTS tracks.
    HTPC Silverstone LC17-B
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Motherboard
    Cosair 750TX Power Supply
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 (OC to 3.2GHz) w/ Scythe Mini Ninja Heatsink
    8GB OCZ Dual-Channel DDR2 RAM
    PNY 2688MB GTX 275 Video Card
    Pioneer BDC-202 BR-ROM
    300GB RAID 0 (OS)
    1.8TB Raid 5 (Media Storage)
    ------------------------------------
    Panasonic TC-50G10
    Onkyo TX-SR505

  • 02-08-2010 12:59 PM In reply to

    • alton987
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    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    My guess is the audio track is DTS, so it will not play in Media Center with out a decoder. I would down load AC3 filter that way if it is DTS it will play fine in Media Center.
    "I am still holding out hope"
  • 02-08-2010 6:01 PM In reply to

    • Marc_G
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    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    As a clarification to Alton987's comments, note that a lot depends on how the audio is connected to whatever device is playing the sound.

     For example, with no audio codecs or anything other than Haali installed, my Win7 system plays DTS and AC3 (DD) content just fine. But only because I'm connected via SPDIF to a receiver that can decode them. If I were outputting to a receiver that only decoded DD then I would hear nothing when playing DTS tracks, unless I had AC3Filter or something like it installed so it could convert the DTS to AC3 in realtime during playback.

    If you're connected to something that can't do either of those, again without AC3Filter installed and configured to decode, you'll get no sound.

    Or, maybe you've got everything hooked up fine but the sound output device isn't selected properly in one of a couple places such as the Sound Playback Device selection screen.

    Or, perhaps the HD audio track is seen as the first audio track but your playback device can't handle it?

    Marc

    HTPC:
    W7 RTM x32 - HTPC (and x64-Desktop)
    Athlon X2 Kuma 2.7 GHz
    Gigabyte MA78GPM-UD2H
    Sapphire 5670 HDMI to Panasonic 50" Plasma
    TOSlink to Onkyo SR603B (DTS/DD only)
  • 02-09-2010 9:41 AM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    I have an OnkyoTX-SR505 AV receiver that does decode DD and DTS.

    When I play the files in Media Player outside of Media Center they play just fine, but not in Media Center... I have tried many codec's and the only combination that works for me is haali + fddshow 64

    I just have the feeling that something is not working correctly somewhere if your system plays them but mine wont?

    Maybe its because my Windows 7 Home P x64 is an upgrade from Windows Vista Home P x64?

    When I try Shark007 i get studdering, when I try ACfilter i get fastforward playback...
    HTPC Silverstone LC17-B
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Motherboard
    Cosair 750TX Power Supply
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 (OC to 3.2GHz) w/ Scythe Mini Ninja Heatsink
    8GB OCZ Dual-Channel DDR2 RAM
    PNY 2688MB GTX 275 Video Card
    Pioneer BDC-202 BR-ROM
    300GB RAID 0 (OS)
    1.8TB Raid 5 (Media Storage)
    ------------------------------------
    Panasonic TC-50G10
    Onkyo TX-SR505

  • 02-09-2010 9:43 AM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    Or, perhaps the HD audio track is seen as the first audio track but your playback device can't handle it?


    Perhaps, I dont believe my Video Card can bitstream HD audio, maybe this is the problem?
    HTPC Silverstone LC17-B
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Motherboard
    Cosair 750TX Power Supply
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 (OC to 3.2GHz) w/ Scythe Mini Ninja Heatsink
    8GB OCZ Dual-Channel DDR2 RAM
    PNY 2688MB GTX 275 Video Card
    Pioneer BDC-202 BR-ROM
    300GB RAID 0 (OS)
    1.8TB Raid 5 (Media Storage)
    ------------------------------------
    Panasonic TC-50G10
    Onkyo TX-SR505

  • 02-09-2010 10:46 AM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    David.knowlton:
    When I try Shark007 i get studdering, when I try ACfilter i get fastforward playback...

    I recently (with the current releases, version 237 for 32bit and 241 of the x64 addon) fixed several audio issues releated to S/PDIF output. I suggest you try the current versions (from MajorGeeks) and make these few changes from default..

    At the bottom of both settings applications, choose to use the suggested settings
    and again, in both apps, On the Audio TAB, choose to use FFDshow passthrough

  • 02-09-2010 10:56 AM In reply to

    • thewarm
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    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

     

    Shark007:

    David.knowlton:
    When I try Shark007 i get studdering, when I try ACfilter i get fastforward playback...

    I recently (with the current releases, version 237 for 32bit and 241 of the x64 addon) fixed several audio issues releated to S/PDIF output. I suggest you try the current versions (from MajorGeeks) and make these few changes from default..

    At the bottom of both settings applications, choose to use the suggested settings
    and again, in both apps, On the Audio TAB, choose to use FFDshow passthrough

    I just followed these instructions and now have perfect audio no matter what formats I play!

    Thanks Shark007!

    Win7MC (x86)
    T2500 2.0GHz CPU
    2 GB PC5300
    nVidia 9400GT
    WD 5400RPM Green drive
    HDHomerun (ClearQAM)
  • 02-09-2010 11:27 AM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    I recently (with the current releases, version 237 for 32bit and 241 of the x64 addon) fixed several audio issues releated to S/PDIF output. I suggest you try the current versions (from MajorGeeks) and make these few changes from default.. At the bottom of both settings applications, choose to use the suggested settings and again, in both apps, On the Audio TAB, choose to use FFDshow passthrough
    Can you explain why this would be better than just using Haali and FFDShow?
    HTPC Silverstone LC17-B
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Motherboard
    Cosair 750TX Power Supply
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 (OC to 3.2GHz) w/ Scythe Mini Ninja Heatsink
    8GB OCZ Dual-Channel DDR2 RAM
    PNY 2688MB GTX 275 Video Card
    Pioneer BDC-202 BR-ROM
    300GB RAID 0 (OS)
    1.8TB Raid 5 (Media Storage)
    ------------------------------------
    Panasonic TC-50G10
    Onkyo TX-SR505

  • 02-09-2010 11:51 AM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    David.knowlton:
    Can you explain why this would be better than just using Haali and FFDShow?

    I have no experience what-so-ever with using only haali and ffdshow.

    In your earlier post you mentioned trying to use the Shark007 releases,
    so I stepped in and did share the knowledge i do have experience with.

  • 02-09-2010 11:55 AM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    Thanks Shark, I appreciate your input.

    I am just trying to get an understanding about codec and how it all works. Do you have any advice on resources I can look into to gain a better understanding?
    HTPC Silverstone LC17-B
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Motherboard
    Cosair 750TX Power Supply
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 (OC to 3.2GHz) w/ Scythe Mini Ninja Heatsink
    8GB OCZ Dual-Channel DDR2 RAM
    PNY 2688MB GTX 275 Video Card
    Pioneer BDC-202 BR-ROM
    300GB RAID 0 (OS)
    1.8TB Raid 5 (Media Storage)
    ------------------------------------
    Panasonic TC-50G10
    Onkyo TX-SR505

  • 02-09-2010 12:05 PM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    David.knowlton:
    Thanks Shark, I appreciate your input.

    I am just trying to get an understanding about codec and how it all works. Do you have any advice on resources I can look into to gain a better understanding?

    To the best of my knowledge, there isnt any. My knowledge comes from personal experience. I am not young. i wrote mt 1st program in DOS BASIC in 1976. I was hooked then, and still am today.

    My codec History: I got so fed up with codecpacks destroying the systems I was maintaing that I began to build a pack for personal use. 5 years ago, I began to share this pack of codecs with a few friends on a techy forum I used to frequent. These friends eventually convinced me to share with the world. I made my 1st release February 4th 2006, and continue to improve these releases today.

  • 02-09-2010 12:18 PM In reply to

    • thewarm
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    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    To answer the question about Haali + FFDShow only, Shark007's "Win7codecs" also has Flac support, and M2TS support... and sub-titles... and a central "configurator" (sorry to borrow that term from Media Browser).

    Win7MC (x86)
    T2500 2.0GHz CPU
    2 GB PC5300
    nVidia 9400GT
    WD 5400RPM Green drive
    HDHomerun (ClearQAM)
  • 02-09-2010 12:38 PM In reply to

    • alton987
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    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    ? what CPU are you running?
    "I am still holding out hope"
  • 02-09-2010 12:40 PM In reply to

    • mikinho
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    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    David.knowlton:
    I am just trying to get an understanding about codec and how it all works. Do you have any advice on resources I can look into to gain a better understanding?

    The best place to look is the Media SDK (part of the Platform SDK). it is geared towards developers though. But like Shark mentioned, personal experience is what most people go by. Get to know Graph Studio as well if you haven't already used it.

    Do you Yammm?

    I have a lot of HTPC related software "in-the-works". Some may never be completed, others will probably only be useful to a few...
  • 02-09-2010 12:42 PM In reply to

    Re: MKV Playback in MC issues

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550
    HTPC Silverstone LC17-B
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Motherboard
    Cosair 750TX Power Supply
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 (OC to 3.2GHz) w/ Scythe Mini Ninja Heatsink
    8GB OCZ Dual-Channel DDR2 RAM
    PNY 2688MB GTX 275 Video Card
    Pioneer BDC-202 BR-ROM
    300GB RAID 0 (OS)
    1.8TB Raid 5 (Media Storage)
    ------------------------------------
    Panasonic TC-50G10
    Onkyo TX-SR505

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