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Incorrect Duration Times Issue

Last post 11-24-2008, 3:28 AM by Pino. 127 replies.
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  •  01-20-2008, 10:24 AM 237527 in reply to 236736

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    Perhaps it is possible for Babgvant to create a version of FixDvrmsDuration which has an auto  function. Then it can read the files in the Recorded TV folder if they are correct and if not automaticly fix the recording. Something just like AutoDVRconvert can do.

    If MS doesn't come up with the solution maybe this will make things easier till MS has found a fix.

  •  01-20-2008, 11:21 AM 237534 in reply to 237527

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    I've actually been afraid to post my results in here until I was *absolutely* sure that my problems have gone away, but it's now been long enough that I think I can say I no longer suffer from this problem in VMC.

    Unfortunately, the way I got rid of it was to open the machine, remove my 2 Hauppauge PVR-250 cards that have been so reliable for so long, and replace them with 2 Hauppauge PVR-1600 cards that have both ATSC and NTSC tuners in them.  Without changing another thing about my machine other than loading new drivers for the new cards, my recording problem went away.

    This is good information I suppose in the sense that it does seem to verify Microsoft's claim of the source being in the tuner driver itself, but there's no question that folks with the HDHomeRun tuners or Hauppauge PVR-250 tuners are effected. (and the PVR-250 has been one of the "certfied" cards forever I thought)

    Matthew

     

  •  01-20-2008, 11:25 AM 237535 in reply to 237527

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    Pino:

    Perhaps it is possible for Babgvant to create a version of FixDvrmsDuration which has an auto  function. Then it can read the files in the Recorded TV folder if they are correct and if not automaticly fix the recording. Something just like AutoDVRconvert can do.

    If MS doesn't come up with the solution maybe this will make things easier till MS has found a fix.



    you can do this with the current rev.  just use a scheduled task with a bat/cmd file that calls fixdvrmsduration.

    it will skip files that aren't broken if you tell it (with the allowedvariance number).

    DVRMSToolbox, Recording Broker, LcdWriter, and more software
    babgvant.com
  •  01-20-2008, 11:44 AM 237542 in reply to 237535

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    babgVant:
    Pino:

    Perhaps it is possible for Babgvant to create a version of FixDvrmsDuration which has an auto  function. Then it can read the files in the Recorded TV folder if they are correct and if not automaticly fix the recording. Something just like AutoDVRconvert can do.

    If MS doesn't come up with the solution maybe this will make things easier till MS has found a fix.



    you can do this with the current rev.  just use a scheduled task with a bat/cmd file that calls fixdvrmsduration.

    it will skip files that aren't broken if you tell it (with the allowedvariance number).

    ok cool but how does it work?

    Is this the latest version http://babgvant.com/files/folders/misc/entry6485.aspx ?

    Can you give me an example bat file.

     

    Thanks

  •  01-20-2008, 12:56 PM 237565 in reply to 237542

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    Pino:
    babgVant:
    Pino:

    Perhaps it is possible for Babgvant to create a version of FixDvrmsDuration which has an auto  function. Then it can read the files in the Recorded TV folder if they are correct and if not automaticly fix the recording. Something just like AutoDVRconvert can do.

    If MS doesn't come up with the solution maybe this will make things easier till MS has found a fix.



    you can do this with the current rev.  just use a scheduled task with a bat/cmd file that calls fixdvrmsduration.

    it will skip files that aren't broken if you tell it (with the allowedvariance number).

    ok cool but how does it work?

    Is this the latest version http://babgvant.com/files/folders/misc/entry6485.aspx ?

    Can you give me an example bat file.

     

    Thanks


    Yes, that's the latest rev.  Just create a batch file that goes through each file in the directory, and runs the fixdvrms exe against it.
  •  01-20-2008, 1:18 PM 237571 in reply to 237565

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    onlydarksets:
    Pino:
    babgVant:
    Pino:

    Perhaps it is possible for Babgvant to create a version of FixDvrmsDuration which has an auto  function. Then it can read the files in the Recorded TV folder if they are correct and if not automaticly fix the recording. Something just like AutoDVRconvert can do.

    If MS doesn't come up with the solution maybe this will make things easier till MS has found a fix.



    you can do this with the current rev.  just use a scheduled task with a bat/cmd file that calls fixdvrmsduration.

    it will skip files that aren't broken if you tell it (with the allowedvariance number).

    ok cool but how does it work?

    Is this the latest version http://babgvant.com/files/folders/misc/entry6485.aspx ?

    Can you give me an example bat file.

     

    Thanks


    Yes, that's the latest rev.  Just create a batch file that goes through each file in the directory, and runs the fixdvrms exe against it.

    Ok but then I have to update the batch file each time when there has been a new recording? Recordings are always different so how is this auto function.

    So you mean I have to place all the recordings which are in the recorded folder in a batch and run it.  I thougt and hoped it would be easier. Maybe I just don't get it.

     

  •  01-20-2008, 2:00 PM 237579 in reply to 237571

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    Pino:

    Ok but then I have to update the batch file each time when there has been a new recording? Recordings are always different so how is this auto function.

    So you mean I have to place all the recordings which are in the recorded folder in a batch and run it.  I thougt and hoped it would be easier. Maybe I just don't get it.

     



    @echo off

    FOR %%D in ("E:\Recorded TV\*.dvr-ms") DO c:\temp\fixdvrmsduration.exe "%%D" "%%D.dvr-ms" 1


    DVRMSToolbox, Recording Broker, LcdWriter, and more software
    babgvant.com
  •  01-20-2008, 2:27 PM 237589 in reply to 237579

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    babgVant:
    Pino:

    Ok but then I have to update the batch file each time when there has been a new recording? Recordings are always different so how is this auto function.

    So you mean I have to place all the recordings which are in the recorded folder in a batch and run it.  I thougt and hoped it would be easier. Maybe I just don't get it.

     



    @echo off

    FOR %%D in ("E:\Recorded TV\*.dvr-ms") DO c:\temp\fixdvrmsduration.exe "%%D" "%%D.dvr-ms" 1

    I have tried but it does nothing.

    My recorded tv folder is H:\recorded tv and I want the fixed recordings here H:\recorded tv\Fixed

    Please give me something I can just copy and paste to make it work.

    I don't know if I must do something with "%%D"

     

    Thanks

  •  01-20-2008, 2:52 PM 237600 in reply to 237589

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    Pino:

    I have tried but it does nothing.

    My recorded tv folder is H:\recorded tv and I want the fixed recordings here H:\recorded tv\Fixed

    Please give me something I can just copy and paste to make it work.

    I don't know if I must do something with "%%D"

     

    Thanks



    that was meant as a sample... if you want it to do something not provided you will need to modify it to do that... if you need help with bat syntax there are several excellent resources on the internet, search for "bat file" in google.

    DVRMSToolbox, Recording Broker, LcdWriter, and more software
    babgvant.com
  •  01-20-2008, 4:37 PM 237618 in reply to 237534

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    Matthew Toney:

    I've actually been afraid to post my results in here until I was *absolutely* sure that my problems have gone away, but it's now been long enough that I think I can say I no longer suffer from this problem in VMC.

    Unfortunately, the way I got rid of it was to open the machine, remove my 2 Hauppauge PVR-250 cards that have been so reliable for so long, and replace them with 2 Hauppauge PVR-1600 cards that have both ATSC and NTSC tuners in them.  Without changing another thing about my machine other than loading new drivers for the new cards, my recording problem went away.

    This is good information I suppose in the sense that it does seem to verify Microsoft's claim of the source being in the tuner driver itself, but there's no question that folks with the HDHomeRun tuners or Hauppauge PVR-250 tuners are effected. (and the PVR-250 has been one of the "certfied" cards forever I thought)

    Matthew

     



    Ugh - not what I wanted to hear.  Is there a "next best" choice for SD recording?  I have two 250s - would the PVR-500 suffer the same bug?  Has anyone had the problem with the PVR-500?

    Thanks!
  •  01-20-2008, 4:46 PM 237620 in reply to 237618

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    Don't know about the PVR-500's - I suppose as long as it uses a different chip than the PVR-250's then it would use a different driver and might not have the problem.  I went with the 1600s since they were available at the local Circuit City fairly reasonably.

    I *can* however tell you a card to avoid!  I first tried the Pinnacle HD PCI Pro (850i) cards that also do ATSC/NTSC - they are in the local Circuit City, Best Buy, CompUSA, etc. and were quite cheap.  However, I found that there were 2 *big* problems with them: 1. With the current drivers for the card, the audio is out of sync in your recordings with Media Center (Pinnacle knows this and still doesn't have a fix available) and 2. They do *not* support using two cards in the same PC like I've always done with my PVR-250's.  In fact, they don't support it because I've seen firsthand with two that it doesn't work.

    Matthew

     

  •  01-20-2008, 5:55 PM 237637 in reply to 237618

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    onlydarksets:


    Ugh - not what I wanted to hear.  Is there a "next best" choice for SD recording?  I have two 250s - would the PVR-500 suffer the same bug?  Has anyone had the problem with the PVR-500?

    Thanks!


    I have a Win-TV-PVR-150 MCE and don't have that issue.  I think the 500 is based on the same chip as the 150.

    DVRMSToolbox, Recording Broker, LcdWriter, and more software
    babgvant.com
  •  01-21-2008, 12:29 AM 237677 in reply to 237600

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    babgVant:
    Pino:

    I have tried but it does nothing.

    My recorded tv folder is H:\recorded tv and I want the fixed recordings here H:\recorded tv\Fixed

    Please give me something I can just copy and paste to make it work.

    I don't know if I must do something with "%%D"

     

    Thanks



    that was meant as a sample... if you want it to do something not provided you will need to modify it to do that... if you need help with bat syntax there are several excellent resources on the internet, search for "bat file" in google.

    ok thanks.

  •  01-21-2008, 12:34 AM 237678 in reply to 237637

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    babgVant:
    onlydarksets:


    Ugh - not what I wanted to hear.  Is there a "next best" choice for SD recording?  I have two 250s - would the PVR-500 suffer the same bug?  Has anyone had the problem with the PVR-500?

    Thanks!


    I have a Win-TV-PVR-150 MCE and don't have that issue.  I think the 500 is based on the same chip as the 150.

    I have four PVR-150 MCE and having the problem. I noticed the problem occurred every week with the same recorded programs. And I think (not 100% tested) it occurs when recording 2 programs after each other on the same channel and the second recording has duration problems.

    MS, fix it!

  •  01-22-2008, 7:29 AM 237977 in reply to 237678

    Re: Incorrect Duration Times Issue

    I don't have a permanent solution but for those who are having this problem when recording two or more shows from the same channel try this. Make sure that u don't use the "stop timer" (which let's you record 5, 10 or 15 minutes longer than the show run's). I have re-programmed all my series (which wil record after each other om the same channel) this way and i did not have had any problem since. I still use, as a default setting, prepadding and postpadding 4 minutes.
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