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Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

Last post 05-27-2008, 7:48 PM by Chris - Moderator. 777 replies.
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  •  10-17-2007, 4:37 PM 215593 in reply to 215583

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

    4x Vistas here. 

    So, where do the roses go?  I've decided to send 6 now, and the rest when the (Vista) fix comes out... 

    g.

     

  •  10-17-2007, 8:47 PM 215642 in reply to 215593

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

    I'm on Vista.

    Thanks for all your hard work, Jessica. I really appreciate it.
  •  10-22-2007, 7:37 AM 216403 in reply to 215642

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

    Hi Jessica,

    I lost hope with Media center and switched to the free Media Portal.  If there is finally a fix for Media Center, I will gladly switch back.  I am on XP MCE and there are three other people who I recommending XP MCE for them as well.  I feel badly recommending a product that didn't work (especially considering the investment that they put forth).  I look forward to letting them know that there will be a fix for them.  Please advise as soon as the fix is available.

    Thanks for your help.

  •  10-22-2007, 10:50 AM 216448 in reply to 215642

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

    2 X vista for me and 3 x vista for friends i support, plys 1 x xp

     


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  •  10-22-2007, 2:50 PM 216524 in reply to 216448

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

    Hey folks, this might be moot now, but for those of you who are interested, check this out!

    http://www.defendfairuse.org/

    Fair use, copyright and DRM is really becoming a hot bed of controversy.

    Can't record your premium TV channels that YOU paid for,

    Can't copy your music to your MP3 player of choice,

    Can't write fan fiction about Halo,

    What's next?  I think it's all becoming ridiculous.

  •  10-23-2007, 6:48 PM 216818 in reply to 216524

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

    XP MCE here - I have an upgrade to Vista but I haven't bothered since it will render my V1 Linksys extenders useless.
  •  10-25-2007, 9:17 PM 217375 in reply to 178302

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    RandyG:
    JessZahn:

    Hey, I have too responded in this thread!

    But the way to get bugs investigated and fixed in our product is to report them to Microsoft Support and your OEM. I like to help when I can, but I think everyone knows that this isn't specifically my job, right? I do this for fun. :-)

    However, if someone can capture a full stream, I will do everything in my power to get a capture developer to have a look and see if we can tell whether it's noise on the signal or the CGMS-A flag. Honestly, I could believe that either is about as likely.

    So if someone can do this, send me a private message and we'll talk about how to get the stream to me.

    -Jessica



    Hi Jessica.
    There are a few other discussions about CGMS-A here as well.

    I am on Shaw in Canada, and they are putting "Copy Never"' on a TON of shows, all the movies, even lots of kid's shows my three year old likes to watch.  Even reruns of Reba that my wife likes.

    This is not PPV, or VOD.

    I know it's CGMS-A "copy never" because I am an electronics junkie, and a professional programmer.  I trapped the signal on line-21 on my oscilloscope.   Then I made a circuit that blanked it out.   And that fixed it, period, no more guessing.  It's not noise.


    Further,
    There ** ARE ** laws, in the USA, for CGMS
    The MOST prohibitive copy protection (that can be applied by the cable company) is:
    OTA broadcast - Copy Freely (EMI=00)
    PPV / VOD - Copy Never (EMI=11)
    Anything Else - Copy Once (EMI=10)

    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/09nov20051500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2005/octqtr/47cfr76.1904.htm
    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/09nov20051500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2005/octqtr/pdf/47cfr76.1904.pdf

    ( all the rules are in http://wireless.fcc.gov/rules.html )

    This problem appears to be centered to Canada.   None of the above rules apply here.  No rules apply here for CGMS, actually.   So the cable companies, so far Shaw, and recently it appears Star Choice, and Rogers, have decided to abuse it.

    My response from Shaw was "ya, we know.   We don't support Microsoft PVRs, complain to them, not us.  If you want to record everything again, buy a Shaw PVR, it has no problems recording any channels"




    7 month bump
  •  10-25-2007, 9:52 PM 217377 in reply to 217375

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    Hey, if you're going to quote me, may as well get the dates right ;-)
    http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/164942.aspx
    That had been ongoing for 4 shows already, for Stargate anyway. 
    December /06,  so that was actually a 10 month bump, lol.

    Hopefully will be fixed before it hits 11, right?
    :-)
  •  10-25-2007, 10:08 PM 217378 in reply to 217377

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    well, 7 months since you posted definitive answer anyway
  •  10-26-2007, 3:00 PM 217538 in reply to 217378

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    Just had a conversation with the developer working on this not 10 minutes ago. It's going to happen.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
  •  10-26-2007, 3:19 PM 217543 in reply to 217538

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    Glad to hear!  Do you know if Microsoft will be so kind as to support us Canadians that still use MCE 2005?

  •  10-29-2007, 10:14 AM 217996 in reply to 217543

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    Yes, I do know. :-)

    We'll release the change for both XP and Vista.


    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
  •  10-29-2007, 10:18 AM 217998 in reply to 217996

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    You couldn't understand how happy that makes me!!!

    Loyal MS-Fanboy for life.  lol.

  •  10-29-2007, 10:36 AM 218000 in reply to 217996

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    Hallelujah!  So is it going to be released as an automatic update?

    Thanks Jess!  It's nice to know someone's listening! :)

  •  10-29-2007, 10:57 AM 218004 in reply to 217996

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

    That is fantastic news.  Thanks for pursuing this on our behalf.
    My VMC HTCP - Vista Ultimate
    ASUS P5Q, Core 2 Duo 2.66Ghz
    3GB DDR2-800
    XFX Fatal1ty 8600
    1 X 750 GB,
    ATI 550Pro, HDHOMERUN
    2GB Flash for Ready Boost
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