JasonT:

Yup, I will do that. I've recorded past eps successfully off WUTV and City, so that's why i was wondering what channel you were recording off of. -- Jason Tsang

Thanks very much Jason.. I am curious to hear the results!  I guess if you have the same problem as me, then it must be a rogers thing.. If not, then perhaps its something in my setup.

Just keep in mind, sometimes I can record shows on the W network, so I'm not sure how much testing you'll need to do to be confident you are able to always record off the W network.

- Alex

Edit: probably the best way to test is to set it up to record the shows I am recording, on the W network, and let it record them for a few days, then check your event log to see if that error shows up.

I've confirmed that I can record some shows off the W network.
I'll have to wait until Monday to see if I can record Friends off the W
network.

Will keep you updated.

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wrote in message news:177110@10.240.6.244...
> JasonT:Yup, I will do that. I've recorded past eps successfully off WUTV
> and City, so that's why i was wondering what channel you were recording
> off of. -- Jason Tsang
>
> Thanks very much Jason.. I am curious to hear the results! I guess if you
> have the same problem as me, then it must be a rogers thing.. If not, then
> perhaps its something in my setup.
>
> Just keep in mind, sometimes I can record shows on the W network, so I'm
> not sure how much testing you'll need to do to be confident you are able
> to always record off the W network.
>
> - Alex
>
> Edit: probably the best way to test is to set it up to record the shows I
> am recording, on the W network, and let it record them for a few days,
> then check your event log to see if that error shows up.
>

---

Jason Tsang - Media Center MVP
http://blog.jasontsang.ca

JasonT:

I've confirmed that I can record some shows off the W network. I'll have to wait until Monday to see if I can record Friends off the W network. Will keep you updated. -- Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics (and other topics that interest me) http://jtsang.blogspot.com

Ok, thanks for the update.  We regularily record shows off the W network, like "Style by Jury", but often it fails to record this show.  I am not sure what the pattern is, as to why we can sometimes record it and other times not.

sjulty, the problem with your solution is that I don't want to use a set top box. Another option would be to use GBPVR to record programs that come with the "copy never" flag, and then play them in the video collection of MCE. It'll probably be more of a pain than just staying with XP MCE.

This problem is escalating to other channels. Last Sunday 7:00 p.m. I recorded Battlestar Galactica off of Space Channel through MCE 2005 to my hard drive just fine.

This Sunday, March 18th, the program failed to record with the following MCE message:

"Program could not be recorded. Restrictions set by the Boradcaster and/or originator of the content Prohibit recording of this program"

At this rate the recording capability of MCE will be totally lost very soon. This is a great loss. The program was a useful asset but without the record feature it's not worth the $$.

I don't care if it's the T.V. Broadcaster, the signal provider or Microsoft, but I paid for the ability to record T.V. shows through MCE and watch them at a later date.

Now I can't. <sigh>

Someone on another thread is having the same problem you are:
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/177172.aspx

It looks like if there's some noise on the line, specifically during the 2 bits of CGMS-A signalling in the Vertical Blanking Interval of the analog transmission, Vista MCE will think that there's copy protection on the transmission and cut you off.

It's possible your cable line/provider/etc has been having some noise issues and that's what you're seeing. That would explain the recording being cutoff in the middle of the recording too. Why would the "copy never" flag not be there from the beginning?

Hi Jessica,

I typed with you previously about the protected TV content with my friend's media center when he tries to record TV from the movie central channel using a Shaw digital cable box in Alberta, Canada.  Here is a link to that post: http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/175643.aspx.  

I too have Shaw cable but my service is basic analog cable which plugs directly into my media center.  I've have never had a problem with recording but I have noticed since January that some of my shows mention that they are "copy protected" when I view the information on the show.  I can still record and view those shows later which is fine.  Would that be an example of the copy once flag which I have read about?

Last week I did have a problem recording a movie from a channel called Encore Avenue.  It didn’t record at all.  Would that be a copy never flag?  I looked at my recorded TV folder and there was a file about 15 Mbytes which was the start of the movie.

I was wondering if you still wanted to look at a file which Shaw seems to be sabotaging the signal from what you wrote in a previous post:

 "JessZahn wrote the following post at 03-15-2007 10:28 AM:

It doesn’t seem right that this content is being protected with a copy never flag especially since it is basic analog cable and not digital pay per view.  If Shaw is not supposed to be protecting this content, is there a way that Microsoft would be able to assist with requesting Shaw to fix their signal so that it will work in media center?

 

I tried two other media center programs with recording the same movie and they were able to do it.  The programs I tried were BeyondTV and media portal.  Media portal is even free.  Why would those 2 programs work and Microsoft not work?

 

It would be to Microsoft advantage to assist with this issue since customers will switch to other programs which work.  Some of those are even free.

 

Thank you for your assistance.

Interesting

Friends recorded off the W network (W - 12:00-12:30 PM EDT)
But it stopped recording at 12:27 pm due to the 'content is prohibited by
the content provider' flag.

Well, we've established that it isn't just you.

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wrote in message news:177133@10.240.6.244...
> JasonT:I've confirmed that I can record some shows off the W network. I'll
> have to wait until Monday to see if I can record Friends off the W
> network. Will keep you updated. -- Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP Read my
> blog for the latest in Media Center topics (and other topics that interest
> me) http://jtsang.blogspot.com
>
> Ok, thanks for the update. We regularily record shows off the W network,
> like "Style by Jury", but often it fails to record this show. I am not
> sure what the pattern is, as to why we can sometimes record it and other
> times not.
>

---

Jason Tsang - Media Center MVP
http://blog.jasontsang.ca

I found that if I use the MS decoder, all is good. If I use a different decoder, then I get protected content messages, but only on a few channels.

This is with TWC in NYC.

Are you using the default MS decoder?

mrloopy:

Are you using the default MS decoder?

Yes. 

JasonT:

Interesting Friends recorded off the W network (W - 12:00-12:30 PM EDT) But it stopped recording at 12:27 pm due to the 'content is prohibited by the content provider' flag. Well, we've established that it isn't just you.

Cool. Thanks a lot for trying that Jason. 

Do you have any ideas on what we could try next?  Do you think this indicates that Rogers *is* marking the content as 'copy never'?

- Alex

I wish there was a way to analyze the stream to see what the heck is being
sent down....

Unfortunately, I don't have any clue where to get any program that could do
that.

--
Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

Read my blog for the latest in Media Center topics
(and other topics that interest me)
http://jtsang.blogspot.com

More information by me
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http://www.classicsunveiled.com

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wrote in message news:177420@10.240.6.244...
> JasonT:Interesting Friends recorded off the W network (W - 12:00-12:30 PM
> EDT) But it stopped recording at 12:27 pm due to the 'content is
> prohibited by the content provider' flag. Well, we've established that it
> isn't just you.
>
> Cool. Thanks a lot for trying that Jason.
>
> Do you have any ideas on what we could try next? Do you think this
> indicates that Rogers *is* marking the content as 'copy never'?
>
> - Alex
>

---

Jason Tsang - Media Center MVP
http://blog.jasontsang.ca

Not meaning to hijack but, I've never had a problem recording anything. My problem comes when I cut the commercials out. I am using VideoReDo to edit on the Ad-Detective setting, which does it automaticlly. Everything is fine until midway through when it hits a certain commercial, usually one from the A&E network, then I get a pop-up saying "Video Thread: File may be DVR-MS "restricted content" Not sure if this has anything to do with anything but, it bugs the crap outta me.

I have read this entire thread and I have to tell you that I have the exact same problem.  It does to appear to be the same show over and over for me.  I am using Time Warner Cable in Ohio.  I guess I haven't added anything more then I have the same problem also.

 

Thank you,

Steve