DTV transition woes
Last post 06-15-2009 11:50 AM by cokoliso. 20 replies.
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06-12-2009 8:23 PM
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cokoliso

- Joined on 11-05-2008

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I had been been using only ATSC channels for 6 months, but Friday morning 3 were not working. My TVs and converter boxes all work fine, but not VMC. Where can I find current data on virtual vs physical channels? The ATSCchannels.xml file has the physical vs virtual channels as they were defined months last September. Has something changed in the assignments? I lost channels 7, 13, and 50.
I have a Haupphauge 2250 tuner and VMC used to find 1 analog and 2 digital tuners. Now it doesn't find the analog tuner, so my VMC FM radio won't work anymore. Maybe because no station is transmitting analog now?
This stinks.
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djp952

- Joined on 09-29-2008

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cokoliso:
I had been been using only ATSC channels for 6 months, but Friday morning 3 were not working. My TVs and converter boxes all work fine, but not VMC. Where can I find current data on virtual vs physical channels? The ATSCchannels.xml file has the physical vs virtual channels as they were defined months last September. Has something changed in the assignments? I lost channels 7, 13, and 50.
I have a Haupphauge 2250 tuner and VMC used to find 1 analog and 2 digital tuners. Now it doesn't find the analog tuner, so my VMC FM radio won't work anymore. Maybe because no station is transmitting analog now?
This stinks.
7, 13 and 50? Washington D.C./Baltimore? WJLA, WJZ and WCDW? If so, yes, those three channels (and more) have changed the frequency that they broadcast on as of yesterday around noon.
Unfortunately, Microsoft/Zap2It are behind the 8-ball and haven't updated the guide to indicate the proper new physical channels yet (as of 12:33am EDT). I added the changed channels manually until such time as the Guide has been caught up, which I'm hoping is any minute now.
If you are indeed in Baltimore/D.C., here are the channels you can likely fix manually until MS/Zap2It catches up to us:
WMAR-DT 2.1 (Baltimore) --> Physical Channel UHF 38 (was UHF 52) WJLA-DT 7.1 (Washington) --> Physical Channel VHF 7 (was UHF 39) WUSA-DT 9.1 (Washington) --> Physical Channel VHF 9 (was UHF 34) WBAL-DT 11.1 (Baltimore) --> Physical Channel VHF 11 (was UHF 59) WJZ-DT 13.1 (Baltimore) --> Physical Channel VHF 13 (was UHF 38) WNVT-DT 30.1-30.5 (Washington) --> Physical Channel 30 WNVC-DT 30.6-30.10 (Washington) --> Physical Channel UHF 24 (was off the air) WDCW-DT 50.1 (Washington) --> Physical Channel UHF 50 (was UHF 51) WPXW-DT 66.1 (Washington) --> Physical Channel UHF 34 (was UHF 43)
And there might be even more depending on where you actually are (I'm in Howard County MD). Hope this helps, and apologies if the 7/13/50 was just a coincidence and has nothing to do with Baltimore/D.C. at all ...
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ingbermr@hotmail.com

- Joined on 04-05-2009
- Washington, DC

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Ditto here. Item 1 below is my big deal right now.
1. I have 2 tuners, and all stations were fine yesterday. Now I cannot get 2 stations (ABC affiliate and CBS affiliate) on WMC even though I CAN get those channels using the tuners in "native" mode--that is, with their own software.
2. Also, I manually added the sub-channels. When will the GUIDE provide listings for these? Listings are available on other guides?
3. My local NBC affiliate is transmitting analog (just a message about the Digital transmission) and I am receiving this on the tuners, but not on WMC, this is not a biggie, of course.
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ingbermr@hotmail.com

- Joined on 04-05-2009
- Washington, DC

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No, not coincidence. Having same problem (now I am getting Ch. 50, but still not Ch 9 and Ch. 7. How do you do the manual change?
I am in Washington, DC.
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djp952

- Joined on 09-29-2008

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It's been a while since I haven't had TV Pack, which is totally different, but if I recall ... if you manually edit the atscchannels.xml file and then make it read-only, that will work. Of course, the downside to this is that when the Guide is fixed (mine still isn't), you won't get the changes, but if it's all set up properly, I suppose you don't need them! [With TV Pack/Win7, you can manually add everything through Media Center itself and even associate the proper guide listings with the channels, it's nice]
Here's my channel list with the corresponding physical frequencies as well. Hopefully it will come in handy for you guys to sort out the issues. Sorry I don't have any non-TV Pack PCs left to just make an atscchannels.xml replacement for you.
MOST WASHINGTON/BALTIMORE POST-TRANSISTION CHANNELS
| Channel |
Station |
Affiliate |
Frequency |
| 2.1 |
WMAR |
ABC |
38 |
| 2.2 |
WMAR-SD |
ABC |
38 |
| 2.3 |
ABC 2 WeatherNet |
Local |
38 |
| 4.1 |
WRC |
NBC |
48 |
| 4.2 |
4 Weather Plus |
Local |
48 |
| 4.3 |
NBC Universal Sports |
NBC |
48 |
| 5.1 |
WTTG |
FOX |
36 |
| 7.1 |
WJLA |
ABC |
7 |
| 7.2 |
Weather Now |
Local |
7 |
| 7.3 |
Retro Television Network |
RTN |
7 |
| 9.1 |
WUSA |
CBS |
9 |
| 9.2 |
Channel 9 Radar |
Local |
9 |
| 11.1 |
WBAL |
NBC |
11 |
| 11.2 |
11 Insta Weather Plus |
Local |
11 |
| 13.1 |
WJZ |
CBS |
13 |
| 14.1 |
WFDC |
UNI |
15 |
| 20.1 |
WDCA |
MNT |
35 |
| 22.1 |
WMPT |
PBS |
42 |
| 22.2 |
MPT 2 |
PBS |
42 |
| 22.3 |
V-Me |
PBS |
42 |
| 24.1 |
WUTB |
MYN |
41 |
| 26.1 |
WETA |
PBS |
27 |
| 26.2 |
WETA Create |
PBS |
27 |
| 26.3 |
WETA Kids Channel |
PBS |
27 |
| 26.4 |
The WETA Channel |
PBS |
27 |
| 30.1 |
MHz Worldview |
MHz |
24 |
| 30.2 |
NHK World TV |
MHz |
24 |
| 30.3 |
Metro Chinese Network |
MHz |
24 |
| 30.4 |
Russia Today TV |
MHz |
24 |
| 30.5 |
Beste van Vlaanderen en Nederland |
MHz |
24 |
| 30.6 |
SABC News International |
MHz |
30 |
| 30.7 |
France 24 |
MHz |
30 |
| 30.8 |
Nigerian Television Authority |
MHz |
30 |
| 30.9 |
VTV4 |
MHz |
30 |
| 30.10 |
Euronews |
MHz |
30 |
| 32.1 |
WHUT |
PBS |
33 |
| 45.1 |
WBFF |
FOX |
46 |
| 45.2 |
ThisTV Baltimore |
ThisTV |
46 |
| 50.1 |
WDCW |
CW |
50 |
| 54.1 |
WNUV |
CW |
40 |
| 66.1 |
WPXW |
iON |
34 |
| 66.2 |
Qubo |
Qubo |
34 |
| 66.3 |
iONLife |
iON |
34 |
| 66.4 |
Worship |
Local |
34 |
| 67.1 |
WMPB |
PBS |
29 |
| 67.2 |
MPT 2 |
PBS |
29 |
| 67.3 |
V-Me |
PBS |
29 |
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JimF

- Joined on 12-23-2003
- Phoenix, AZ

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Hey walkabt! I too live in the Phoenix area and I am still having ATSC woes. You seemed pretty confident about getting it to work. What are you doing to make it work then? I have tried: - pulling new guides.
- completely redoing my "Set Up TV Signal" (hoping that it would actually do a scan instead of relying on some cached data).
- someone on this site suggested manually changing atscchannels.xml and making it read-only and pulling a new guide.
Any other suggestions would be great! Thanks, Jim
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flamingwoodchuck

- Joined on 02-15-2005

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Where do you go in Win7 to make the channel -> frequency reassignments? I can't seem to find it.
Edit: Nevermind, I found it in this thread:
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/340770.aspx
I was trying to change it, turns out I just need to add a new one.
Two HDPVRs working! Whooo Hooooo!!!!
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