Karl_Il:

2100's work fine with TV Pack.

So do 2200s.

I'm curious as to whether MS will release an update to Windows Movie Maker that allows it to recognize the new TV Pack format? Since .dvr-ms was recognized by WMM primarily so it could be used to edit VMC recordings, will they fix WMM to now work with this new format?

Cycle -

I strongly feel that it won't happen any time soon.

I hope I am wrong, but given the recent comments they have turned their focus to Win7.

Rico66:

Yes, this works. It might not work, if you have e.g. ffdshow installed. In my case the audio and video codecs were mapped that way. But if you disable ac3 for audio and all mpeg2 for video then it'll work. Check the file in graphedit, if everything is mapped to the Microsoft decoders.

I did a complete reinstall of Vista in order to move to x64. Before installing ffdshow, I tried playing some recorded .wtv files in Windows Media Player. Content recorded from my ATI Digital Cable Tuners with CableCARD did not play and gave me the "content protected" error. However, shows recorded from my HDHomeRun did play fine, with both audio and video working correctly. I would like to go ahead and install ffdshow so I can play other media files such as XViD and H.264. How do I need to set ffshow so that it doesn't cause problems with playback of .wtv files?

Jim

I've installed the new TV Pack onto my Vista Ultimate x86 PC.  Just wondering if anyone has been able to get .WTV recorded TV files to play in anything other than VMC.  I can play them back just fine using Media CENTER, but they don't play using Media PLAYER.  I'd like for them to play in both.  One would think that Microsoft would've included in the TV Pack whatever was needed for Media Player to be able to play these new .WTV files, but apparently they didn't.  Any ideas?

 

rgreenpc:

Cycle - I strongly feel that it won't happen any time soon. I hope I am wrong, but given the recent comments they have turned their focus to Win7.

Wow, that would be ridiculous. How are the OEMs selling units with TVPack going to deal with this? They will be selling systems that have no way to convert recorded content from VMC to DVD with a program native to the OS like what is currently possible un non-TV Pack VMC machines. I'm sure a 3rd party developer will step in to fill the void, but they've literally crippled an essential aspect of Media Center. New OEM systems purchasers will have no way to transfer their recordings to DVD or play them back outside of Media Center. I know it's M$FT, but this is flabbergasting even for them.

Just when the furor over the OEM-only release has started to dwindle...

Surely they can still convert to DVD using the Burn to DVD options that exist within VMC...

they should, the option i still there

i have the klite codec pack installed, no sound or video from wtv in wmp, they play however

it recognizes the file and length properly, so yeah, it doesnt like other filters

buellpilot:

Surely they can still convert to DVD using the Burn to DVD options that exist within VMC...

Sure, so long as you want them as is. For me, a videographer who uses Vegas Pro for editing, the only reason for WMM to even exist on my PC is for compatibility with VMC files. With that gone, I might as well dump WMM. Oh wait, I can't because it's built-in to Windows.

Ok, I finally found a way to get clear QAM shows recorded as WTV files on my Fiji-patched systems converted to standard MPEG-TS with AC3 audio. Here's how!

1. Download GraphStudio (open source update of Microsoft's Graphedit)

2. Download Moonlight DumpOS and M71 MPEG Muxer directshow filters (just install the Moonlight stuff):

3. Run GraphStudio. Then open a WTV file on your Fiji machine. After a few seconds, it should come up with an algorithm for decoding and rendering the medial file. You can see WTV comes with a lot of baggage!

4. Now, highlight and delete the audio renderer (typically DirectSounds) and video renderer boxes. Then highlight and delete the audio and video decoders that the renderers used to be connected to.  You should have two DTFilters left that used to be connected to the audio and video decoders. Leave everything else (unused baggage).

5. Now, using GraphStudio's menu insert two filters. First, the Moonlight M71 Muxer. Then, the Moonlight Dumpos (which should result in a window popping up asking you for the output filename. You can choose anything you want your output file to be called). Close the insert filter window.

6. Connect both the DTFilters to the input pin of the Muxer. Then connect the output of the Muxer to the input pin of the Dumpos.

7. Now, hit the "play" graph button! If everything works as it should, you should have a standard mpeg file at the end of the processing. Unfortunately for me, it looks as if processing occurred in realtime, meaning for a 2 hour WTV file, it took me 2 hours to get the MPEG-TS created.

Bummer about the processing time, but at least I can now have a standard MPEG-TS file that can be played on my other computers (WinXP, non-Fiji Vista, etc). **NOTE: You can get this MPEG-TS to be played back on other machines by installing a splitter. I used the Haali Media Splitter on my non-Fiji Vista system and was able to playback the TS file from within Vista Media Center via the Video Library.

Good luck!

Shouldnt we just call it .WTF! that would be more appropriate.

lol good idea

I am trying to image what the tech lead and the product Manager were thinking.  

pm "I got an idea you address all those folks who complain that sometimes they can't play dvr-ms on other players?"

tl "yeah bummer for them but at least it plays on MCE and Mp"

PM "Exactly we make it not play on anything then no one will complain that it's fiddly to transcode"

TL "Cool man"

Tarrant:

Ok, I finally found a way to get clear QAM shows recorded as WTV files on my Fiji-patched systems converted to standard MPEG-TS with AC3 audio. Here's how!

1. Download GraphStudio (open source update of Microsoft's Graphedit)

2. Download Moonlight DumpOS and M71 MPEG Muxer directshow filters (just install the Moonlight stuff):

3. Run GraphStudio. Then open a WTV file on your Fiji machine. After a few seconds, it should come up with an algorithm for decoding and rendering the medial file. You can see WTV comes with a lot of baggage!

4. Now, highlight and delete the audio renderer (typically DirectSounds) and video renderer boxes. Then highlight and delete the audio and video decoders that the renderers used to be connected to.  You should have two DTFilters left that used to be connected to the audio and video decoders. Leave everything else (unused baggage).

5. Now, using GraphStudio's menu insert two filters. First, the Moonlight M71 Muxer. Then, the Moonlight Dumpos (which should result in a window popping up asking you for the output filename. You can choose anything you want your output file to be called). Close the insert filter window.

6. Connect both the DTFilters to the input pin of the Muxer. Then connect the output of the Muxer to the input pin of the Dumpos.

7. Now, hit the "play" graph button! If everything works as it should, you should have a standard mpeg file at the end of the processing. Unfortunately for me, it looks as if processing occurred in realtime, meaning for a 2 hour WTV file, it took me 2 hours to get the MPEG-TS created.

Bummer about the processing time, but at least I can now have a standard MPEG-TS file that can be played on my other computers (WinXP, non-Fiji Vista, etc). **NOTE: You can get this MPEG-TS to be played back on other machines by installing a splitter. I used the Haali Media Splitter on my non-Fiji Vista system and was able to playback the TS file from within Vista Media Center via the Video Library.

Good luck!

Thanks, but links would have been helpful.