WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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07-29-2008 6:00 PM

gadgetnut
Joined on 07-30-2008

WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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I just received and installed my new Hauppauge WINTV-HVR2250. I've tried to hook up an antenna and I can receive the 15 or so HD channels apparently available in my area (Redmond, WA). I've also hooked it up to my house's cable (I have Comcast Digital Cable) and I can view all clear SD channels, but not the HD cable channels (like KOMO 104 for instance).

How can I get the best of both worlds? Is it possible? Assuming the local HD channels are not encrypted by Comcast, why can I not view them?

Note: I am using a vanilla Vista Ultimate install + the Hauppauge drivers, no plugin or anything has been installed.

Thanks for any help figuring this out!

07-29-2008 6:30 PM In reply to

Octavean
Joined on 11-22-2004

Re: WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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The HVR 2250 has, as I understand it, two RF inputs with one RF connecting dedicated to FM. Therefore, a single RF input is dedicated to NTSC, ATSC and QAM.

This means you cannot mix NTSC, ATSC and QAM because its internally split. Using a cable box would be difficult too since both tuners would see the same cable set top box.

Anyway in order to receive QAM in MCE / VMC you would need to use the Hauppauge Channel mapping beta software plug-in:

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/270028.aspx

You made no mention of this so I have to wonder if you are using the beta QAM software?

07-29-2008 7:18 PM In reply to

gadgetnut
Joined on 07-30-2008

Re: WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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No, I am not using the beta QAM software. I read about this plugin but apparently it's nothing but trouble and no one has mentioned any success getting this to work.

07-29-2008 8:55 PM In reply to

Octavean
Joined on 11-22-2004

Re: WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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Does that mean you havent even tried the beta QAM software?

Well besides ATSC (over the air) you have NO other options for HDTV in MCE / VMC using that card other then clear QAM.

Perhaps the Hauppauge software WinTV v6 can be used for QAM but that’s a far cry from the software quality of MCE / VMC

Since your card is new perhaps you can just return it and buy an HDHomeRun or AverMedia M780 both of which typically work in MCE / VMC very well with QAM.

Other then that I don’t know what to tell you.

Rock, hard place.

07-30-2008 12:12 AM In reply to

gadgetnut
Joined on 07-30-2008

Re: WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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I tried the beta plugin, and it met my expectations: it doesn't work :-) Or rather, it does detect the clear QAM channels (44 total), then asks me to reboot the machine, once restarted, every channel is black and VMC says it can't detect the signal. I've read other reports of the same issue. I guess the card will go back to its sender now and I'll explore the other options you've mentioned here. thanks for the help!

08-11-2008 1:12 PM In reply to

erikkur
Joined on 01-12-2008

Re: WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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Clear QAM Problems Vista Channel Guide Issues

All, I got the HVR-2250 the other week or so, I have tried getting Clear QAM channels with the WinTV6 application, it says that it detects TONS of them. I don't really care, I just want to be able to schedule and watch the major carriers that are available in the clear. I can only seem to tune PBS-HD with WinTV6.....not too happy. I have had terrible luck with the app in general, so I gave up on that. I then decided to try the beta QAM plug-in for Vista Media Center (VMC). It detects like 9 or 10 channels just great! (using the OTA Antenna method mentioned elsewhere) Now my problem is getting the damn guide in Vista to work properly with the Clear QAM channels that I get. The channels make no sense to me numerically at all, and some of the high motion scenes in the Olympics are choppy......perhaps a video card issue (but it is a dedicated low profile 512MB card).....Anyone have any suggestions? I am getting close, but I really would like to get this all working before the TV season starts. Not sure why it has to be so complicated...back in the MCE500 days it all just worked. Does anyone have any info on the "Fiji" or Media Center Update Pack? Does it support Clear QAM? Am I asking too many questions? Any help from anyone would be great! Are there alternative programs (save for the not so awesome WinTV6 application) out there to use that compare to the polish of Media Center?

Thanks Ahead,

Erik

09-01-2008 9:17 PM In reply to

rx7turbo1
Joined on 06-29-2008

Re: WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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I cannot detect any clear QAM channels with the VMC plugin or WinTV6. I have comcast cable. I'm calling them tomorrow to verify I have digital channels... This is driving me crazy.

09-01-2008 9:27 PM In reply to

rx7turbo1
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Do you guys have the option for digital cable when configuring the TV settings in vista media center? I only have analog when I select cable. When I select antenna (ATSC) no channels are found in the vmc scan or hauppauge plugin scan. If I select analog cable I cannot type a channel about 169 I believe.

I am on version 6.1.1000.18273 of VMC (TV pack) and 7.3.0.26198 of the WinTV-HVR-2250 driver.

I'm starting to think digital channels are not being broadcasted to me, but would comcast only offer analog anymore?? I just had a HD STB that I returned. Maybe they dropped our digital channels too??

Thoughts? Thanks!

09-02-2008 7:49 AM In reply to

Octavean
Joined on 11-22-2004

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The Silicondust HDHomeRun and Avermedia M780, H788 AVerTV Hybrid Volar Max all have channel mapping utilities that allow the user to view the available QAM channels resulting from the prerequisite scans.

You can verify the channels

You can name the channels

You can number AKA re-order the channels so that they show up in the MCE / VMC guide in the order that you want

You can actually do quite a lot.

If Hauppauge doesn’t allow this in their channel mapping utility then they have some considerable work to do in order to catch up. I like Hauppauge and their products so I’m not knocking them I’m just saying,…

09-02-2008 4:39 PM In reply to

swasam
Joined on 09-02-2008

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I have same set up. Vista Home premium + Tv Pack 2008. VMC does not recognize any digital tuner. It finds 2 analog tuners. and Analog channels works fine. but no HD. Clear QAM plug-in unable to find the card. Gives error

can't find capture '1' pin H: 0x0.

any help really appriciated. struggling with this.

09-02-2008 7:28 PM In reply to

rx7turbo1
Joined on 06-29-2008

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swasam, I am getting the exact same error! Do you think it could be due to the TV pack? Do you recall getting that error before the upgrade? I don't, but I also never tried getting QAM channels before the upgrade.

The analog channels are working great. I get 69 channels and cant seem to get rid of them. We are definately on to something here. Does anyone else have thse symptoms on other versions?

swasam, have you tried scanning digital channels in WinTV6?

09-03-2008 4:36 AM In reply to

swasam
Joined on 09-02-2008

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WinTV6 scan gives a lot of QAM channels (330+) but none working. I installed Vista SP1 and TV Pack together. I haven't tried without TV pack.

Any one had luck with VMC SP1 + TV Pack?

09-03-2008 3:56 PM In reply to

rx7turbo1
Joined on 06-29-2008

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Check out this thread. The word is Hauppauge will be releasing new drivers for the 2250.

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/permalink/290063/290063/ShowThread.aspx#290063

09-04-2008 5:20 AM In reply to

swasam
Joined on 09-02-2008

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i don't see any new driver. I will wait for 2 more days and then i will return this card. I don't have any hope this card will work with Clear QAM. I sent a mail and left a voice message to Hauppague. no reply so far.

09-06-2008 6:05 AM In reply to

swasam
Joined on 09-02-2008

Re: WINTV HVR 2250: How to get both ATSC and Cable? Or how to get HD from cable?

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Ok. The problem is Fiji. Hvr-2250 does not work with Fiji Tv pack 2008. I reinstalled Vista fresh. then installed Clear QAM. Scan Digital cable as Digital TV Antenna. And then, run Clear QAM, with Parameter "Y". locked about 52 channels. but I can view only 2 channels in Chicago west sub-urb area. May be I am getting only 2 clear Qam or signal is low from comcast.

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