Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

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  • 10-11-2007 8:43 AM

    Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    I've tried MCE on XP and Vista and on two different Acer laptops (one a hig hend, high spec model)and the jpeg picture quality when viewing slideshow is simply APPALLING and unusable.
    They are slighly blurred and lacking in detail.

    When I view the same photos via the normal Windows Slideshow the the stills are pin sharp, high res quality
    The difference is like that of High def and Standatd def...maybe more!

    It can't be my gear as the quality difference is there to be seen directly on both the laptop screen displays or on the connected plasma TV (via HDMI, VGA or MCE extender in my 360).

    What baffles me most is that this 'bug' doesn't seem to be well documented.  I think i found only one thread on it in the newsgroups by a German journalist.

    Can somebody explain to me why my photos look like something off a VCD when viewed via MCE?
    The photos were taken with a Nikon D70 DSLR at 2240x1448 resolution.

    I urge ayou to check your photos against MCE and Widows Explorer Slideshow.  I think you may be a bit shocked in the difference in quality.

  • 10-15-2007 6:20 AM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)


    KevMull,  THANK YOU - I've also been really annoyed with this issue.   See my thread link below.  I upgraded from MCE 2005 to Vista because this was "resolved", but obviously it is not.    (Try to "zoom" in on picture, it's pretty weak - no new pixels loaded.)

    It's such a shame when you have a fast PC, huge high resolution display, higher resolution pictures, and they end up looking like poop (relatively).   

    That said, the My Pictures interface in VMC is beautiful.  So please, please, please let us see our pictures in at least native screen resolution!

    http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/202973.aspx

  • 10-16-2007 2:12 PM In reply to

    • noahsw
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    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    Hmm, I honestly haven't heard much of this issue.  Which graphics cards are you guys using?  I'm aware of us not loading new pixels in zoom, but I don't see any reason why we shouldn't look as good as Windows.

    Noah Spitzer-Williams
    Program Manager, Media Center

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  • 10-22-2007 2:34 AM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    I've had the same poor quality on two differnt laptops with two different graphic cards.

    NVIDIA GeForce Go 7600 - 256 MB

    and

    ATI Radeon Xpress 1300

  • 10-25-2007 2:22 AM In reply to

    • MrNorth
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    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    Hi!

     

    I have the exact same issue and Im using an ATI X1250 (690G) from AMD/ATI, with the latest Catalyst drivers.

    kind regards

    Henrik

  • 10-31-2007 5:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

     

    I'm 7600GS @ 1920x1080 @ 60Hz.    162.22 (last non-stuttering driver for me).

    I don't think it's video card related.   You can "prove" the blurry image theory more easily with a test pattern image.  If I take a 1920x1080 image where each horizontal row of pixels is an alternating color, in VMC you won't see each row, you'll get some weird aliasing horizontal bars, not alternating color rows.    The only way you can see the image as intended, is using Windows Picture Gallery and selecting "Actual Size".

    Love to have an update to fix this. 

     

  • 11-13-2007 11:38 AM In reply to

    • noahsw
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    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    In Vista, Media Center uses GDI+ to render photos but Photo Gallery uses WinCodecs.  This may have something to do with it.  We'll investigate more and try to make sure we're on par with Photo Gallery.

    Thanks!


    Noah Spitzer-Williams
    Program Manager, Media Center

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
  • 12-17-2007 7:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    KevMull:

    I've tried MCE on XP and Vista and on two different Acer laptops (one a hig hend, high spec model)and the jpeg picture quality when viewing slideshow is simply APPALLING and unusable.
    They are slighly blurred and lacking in detail.

    When I view the same photos via the normal Windows Slideshow the the stills are pin sharp, high res quality
    The difference is like that of High def and Standatd def...maybe more!

    It can't be my gear as the quality difference is there to be seen directly on both the laptop screen displays or on the connected plasma TV (via HDMI, VGA or MCE extender in my 360).

    What baffles me most is that this 'bug' doesn't seem to be well documented.  I think i found only one thread on it in the newsgroups by a German journalist.

    Can somebody explain to me why my photos look like something off a VCD when viewed via MCE?
    The photos were taken with a Nikon D70 DSLR at 2240x1448 resolution.

    I urge ayou to check your photos against MCE and Widows Explorer Slideshow.  I think you may be a bit shocked in the difference in quality.

     

    I also am having this issue with photo gallery and Microsoft Office Picture Manager. No problems with this in XP - it just started last week when I installed Vista on a new hard drive. Even if I zoom in just a little bit, it get pixelated/blurry - but if I set that same image as my desktop, it looks just fine (even though it's actually a larger size than the one I zoomed in on).

    It also seems to be happening in IE 7 with some larger images (pixelated when they weren't in XP on the same image/website), though it is only noticable when actually viewing a larger picture, and not when viewing a normal website or normal sized picture. This seems to happen less often though.

  • 01-22-2008 2:26 PM In reply to

    • milt
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    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    The complaint that MCE slideshows have poor resolution is a very old one. Over the
    last several years there have been many posts on TGB on the issue.  I remember a couple
    of years ago that some MS engineer posted an admission that they first converted the
    pic to SD and then converted that to the resolution of the screen (which is pretty
    obviously going the give poor resolution on anything better than an SD screen).  He
    also promised the issue would be fixed in their next MCE release.  Looks like it
    wasn't.

    --Milt--
    Cellar Cinemas HTPC-595, Sanyo PLV-Z2000
  • 03-18-2008 3:45 PM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    I have recently had similar experiences whereby images fed via the Windows Media Center/Extender appear 'soft'. My OS is Vista Home Premium edition.

    I have a HD projector which supports 1280x768 resolution and 1080i for HDTV.
    It has DVI-I and HDMI inputs (amongst others).

    If I display jpeg images (greater than 1280x768) directly from a computer
    via the DVI-I input, the picture quality is excellent. If I display the same
    images using Windows Media Center and a Linksys DMA-2200 MCE via the HDMI
    input (1080i) the picture quality is degraded and looks distinctly 'soft'.
    Satellite HDTV (1080i) pictures fed via HDMI are spectacular - they look as
    good as the 1280x768 still images.

  • 06-19-2008 7:07 AM In reply to

    • Pixelz
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    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    Anyone know if this is fixed by installing the June 2008 Media Center update for Vista?
  • 06-19-2008 8:30 AM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)

    Pixelz:
    Anyone know if this is fixed by installing the June 2008 Media Center update for Vista?

    Not as far as I can tell. I've been annoyed by this as well. The pictures look good if I view them one by one in Windows Live Photo Gallery, but even in Windows Live Photo Gallery, they get blury if I view them as a slide show. They are blury in Media Center as well as over my Linksys extender. I know the pictures are much better quality, because my Pioneer Plasma can display pictures through Windows Media Sharing. If I view the pictures that way they are very crisp on my plasma, but if I view them through the Linksys extender they look terrible. Also, if I view them in Picasa as a slide show they are crisp as well. For this reason I mostly use Picasa to view my pictures. Windows Live Photo Gallery is awesome at importing pictures (love the grouping feature), but it's terrible at viewing pictures and so is media center. The marketing language for media center claims you can view your pictures in HD, but it's SD at best really.

    Dell XPS 420, quad-core, 4GB RAM, 1TB
    Dual ATI CableCARD tuners
    HDHomeRun
    Pioneer Elite PRO-1150HD connected via Linksys DMA2100
    Pioneer PDP-5080HD connected via Linksys DMA2100
    Velocity Micro Windows Home Server, 1TB
    mControl Home Automation
  • 10-18-2008 7:21 AM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center (on PC or TV)


    superswiss, you're exactly right.

    Does anyone know if/when this might be fixed?  
  • 10-28-2008 3:28 PM In reply to

    • surge
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    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center - Extender

    I didn't realize how much the quality suffered when viewing pictures using my extender until I connected my laptop to my Samsung using a VGA cable.

    Through the extender, the images seemed soft and not very detailed.

    With the VGA cable, the pictures look excellent... like a show on HD.

    Any updates or tests to perform (to help diagnose the problem) from the Microsoft guys around here?

    thanks.
    Windows 7 Ultimate
    Core 2 Duo E4500 @ 2.2GHz / 4 Gigs Ram
    c: 80 Gig d: 1000 TB SATA
    Tuners: HDHomeRun x 2 / WinTV 1600
    Extenders: DMA-2200 / DMA-2100 x 2

    Linksys V1 extender (for sale..anyone interested?)
  • 12-14-2008 5:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Why Do My Photos look Slightly Blurred and Lacking In Detail in Media Center - Extender


    Great, I can see "giga-pixel images on my iPhone", but they still look like pooh on my 1920x1080 VMC rig.

    http://livelabs.com/blog/seadragon-goes-mobile/

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