Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

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  • 10-17-2007 4:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

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    4x Vistas here. 

    So, where do the roses go?  I've decided to send 6 now, and the rest when the (Vista) fix comes out... 

    g.

     

  • 10-17-2007 8:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

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    I'm on Vista.

    Thanks for all your hard work, Jessica. I really appreciate it.
  • 10-22-2007 7:37 AM In reply to

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    Hi Jessica,

    I lost hope with Media center and switched to the free Media Portal.  If there is finally a fix for Media Center, I will gladly switch back.  I am on XP MCE and there are three other people who I recommending XP MCE for them as well.  I feel badly recommending a product that didn't work (especially considering the investment that they put forth).  I look forward to letting them know that there will be a fix for them.  Please advise as soon as the fix is available.

    Thanks for your help.

  • 10-22-2007 10:50 AM In reply to

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    2 X vista for me and 3 x vista for friends i support, plys 1 x xp

     

    "There are only 10 types of people in the
    world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't"

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  • 10-22-2007 2:50 PM In reply to

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    Hey folks, this might be moot now, but for those of you who are interested, check this out!

    http://www.defendfairuse.org/

    Fair use, copyright and DRM is really becoming a hot bed of controversy.

    Can't record your premium TV channels that YOU paid for,

    Can't copy your music to your MP3 player of choice,

    Can't write fan fiction about Halo,

    What's next?  I think it's all becoming ridiculous.

  • 10-23-2007 6:48 PM In reply to

    • wayner9
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    Re: Media Center support for Canadian customers

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    XP MCE here - I have an upgrade to Vista but I haven't bothered since it will render my V1 Linksys extenders useless.
  • 10-25-2007 9:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

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    RandyG:
    JessZahn:

    Hey, I have too responded in this thread!

    But the way to get bugs investigated and fixed in our product is to report them to Microsoft Support and your OEM. I like to help when I can, but I think everyone knows that this isn't specifically my job, right? I do this for fun. :-)

    However, if someone can capture a full stream, I will do everything in my power to get a capture developer to have a look and see if we can tell whether it's noise on the signal or the CGMS-A flag. Honestly, I could believe that either is about as likely.

    So if someone can do this, send me a private message and we'll talk about how to get the stream to me.

    -Jessica



    Hi Jessica.
    There are a few other discussions about CGMS-A here as well.

    I am on Shaw in Canada, and they are putting "Copy Never"' on a TON of shows, all the movies, even lots of kid's shows my three year old likes to watch.  Even reruns of Reba that my wife likes.

    This is not PPV, or VOD.

    I know it's CGMS-A "copy never" because I am an electronics junkie, and a professional programmer.  I trapped the signal on line-21 on my oscilloscope.   Then I made a circuit that blanked it out.   And that fixed it, period, no more guessing.  It's not noise.


    Further,
    There ** ARE ** laws, in the USA, for CGMS
    The MOST prohibitive copy protection (that can be applied by the cable company) is:
    OTA broadcast - Copy Freely (EMI=00)
    PPV / VOD - Copy Never (EMI=11)
    Anything Else - Copy Once (EMI=10)

    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/09nov20051500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2005/octqtr/47cfr76.1904.htm
    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/09nov20051500/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2005/octqtr/pdf/47cfr76.1904.pdf

    ( all the rules are in http://wireless.fcc.gov/rules.html )

    This problem appears to be centered to Canada.   None of the above rules apply here.  No rules apply here for CGMS, actually.   So the cable companies, so far Shaw, and recently it appears Star Choice, and Rogers, have decided to abuse it.

    My response from Shaw was "ya, we know.   We don't support Microsoft PVRs, complain to them, not us.  If you want to record everything again, buy a Shaw PVR, it has no problems recording any channels"




    7 month bump
  • 10-25-2007 9:52 PM In reply to

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    Hey, if you're going to quote me, may as well get the dates right ;-)
    http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/164942.aspx
    That had been ongoing for 4 shows already, for Stargate anyway. 
    December /06,  so that was actually a 10 month bump, lol.

    Hopefully will be fixed before it hits 11, right?
    :-)
  • 10-25-2007 10:08 PM In reply to

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    well, 7 months since you posted definitive answer anyway
  • 10-26-2007 3:00 PM In reply to

    • JessZahn
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    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

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    Just had a conversation with the developer working on this not 10 minutes ago. It's going to happen.
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  • 10-26-2007 3:19 PM In reply to

    • vipes
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    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

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    Glad to hear!  Do you know if Microsoft will be so kind as to support us Canadians that still use MCE 2005?

  • 10-29-2007 10:14 AM In reply to

    • JessZahn
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    Re: Recording canceled/stopped due to Copyright restrictions

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    Yes, I do know. :-)

    We'll release the change for both XP and Vista.

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
  • 10-29-2007 10:18 AM In reply to

    • vipes
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    You couldn't understand how happy that makes me!!!

    Loyal MS-Fanboy for life.  lol.

  • 10-29-2007 10:36 AM In reply to

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    Hallelujah!  So is it going to be released as an automatic update?

    Thanks Jess!  It's nice to know someone's listening! :)

  • 10-29-2007 10:57 AM In reply to

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    That is fantastic news.  Thanks for pursuing this on our behalf.
    "There are only 10 types of people in the
    world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't"

    My HTPC - Windows 7 RC
    Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H Core 2 Duo 3.15 Ghz
    4GB DDR2-800, Integrated NVidia 9400
    1 X TB,ATI 550Pro, HDHOMERUN, HD PVR
    Linksys 2100, 360, WHS
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