I've never actually had the BSOD, but the M780 simply won't work again after the system comes out of sleep.  I've tried several variations of testing, but once the system has gone into S3 (or S1&S3) sleep, the M780 will just hang the machine when it's accessed (a second time).

That is, after waking from sleep, VMC will work fine, and I can play any recorded TV or video just fine.  But going to LiveTV will produce the spinning blue circle.  I can click back up to the main menu again, and other things, but the circle stays.  Try LiveTV again and VMC is locked hard.

I've done a complete clean install to test, but still the same results.  I've also tried changing the logon credentials of the "Windows Media Center Receiver Service" to local admin.  No go.

If I leave the blue circle spinning after the first attempt at LiveTV, it eventually produces an error msg :

The Video decoder has malfunctioned or is not installed.  Please restart WIndows Media Center or restart the computer.

This happens with the ATI decoder, the latest MS one, or the original SP0 MS one.

Biostar P4M900-M4 motherboard 3.2GHz cpu 2G ram
ATI Radeon 3450
AverMedia M780

Installed the following, in order :

Vista Ultimate, no updates.
Biostar drivers for chipset, LAN and high-def audio
ATI Catalyst 8.11 drivers, AVIVO
AverMedia .30 beta drivers
Vista SP1
TV Pack 2008
PlayReady PC Runtime
KB951685
KB950754
Finally, all updates from MS Update

Used DECCheck to enable the ATI mpeg2 decoder, then VMCD to select it as default.

Everything seems to be working swimmingly.  Except for the M780 after waking up from S3 sleep.

Any ideas as to what to check ?

Thanks -

Halfwalker, Felix from avermdia had me tried http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928135/en-us, which did not work for me, but it is worth a shot. Please note, I had to force the update since Vista kept saying I did not need the update. Do a google search on how to force an update.

Halfwalker:

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Everything seems to be working swimmingly.  Except for the M780 after waking up from S3 sleep.

Any ideas as to what to check ?

Thanks -

Install the MediaCenter Standby Tool (MST).  Set it to shut down media center upon going into S3 and then restart VMC upon resuming.  That cleared up the problem for me.

I have a question I couldn't find anywhere in the forum and I'd very much appreciate your input. Will this card tune a PAL-N analog signal? Avermedia's description says it has "World analog tuner" (whatever that is) and some sites state the card has a NTSC, PAL, SECAM tuner. However, when I asked Avermedia about it, they said "honestly We never tested this tuner with PAL-N signal, so I would not recomend you" (sic).
Has anyone tried a PAL-N signal and succeeded? And I know it is a _very_ long shot, but has anyone tried watching TV in Argentina with it and succeeded?

Thank you very much!

PS. I don't own this card and I can't get it here to test it myself; I'm having someone bringing it over (that's why I'm asking)

EZEd,

You nailed that description right on.  I see the exact same thing on my system.  My recorded TV is blurry.  My live TV is blurry.  What can we do?  I too wish we could adjust some of those settings.  The picture is horrible compared to analog cable right into the TV.  The oddly moving faces you describe are spot on and where I really notice the problem most too.  I wish I had any help to give on it.

sneakerx:

Halfwalker:

<snip>

Everything seems to be working swimmingly.  Except for the M780 after waking up from S3 sleep.

Install the MediaCenter Standby Tool (MST).  Set it to shut down media center upon going into S3 and then restart VMC upon resuming.  That cleared up the problem for me.

OK, that seems to have done the trick, mostly.  I grabbed the latest build of MST, though that didn't seem to have any particular setting to shut down VMC.

In any case, in testing it seems to be working most of the time.  Every so often when it wakes back up, the video decoder error will be there and it will need a full reboot.

99% of the way there !  Thanks :)

I also have similar problems with the audio/video becoming garbled (both analog and QAM). I thought it was a problem with my cable signal or something. But actually, it used to work perfectly a few months ago, and then I started having this issue. I can't even watch a show now without the video becoming garbled, and then I have to press stop and then go to the channel again.

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QX9650
EVGA 790i Ultra
4GB DDR3 1600MHz
2x EVGA GTX 280 SLI
AverTV Combo PCIe
Dell 30" 3007WFP-HC LCD
Vista Ultimate x64

Flic3D:

EZEd,

You nailed that description right on.  I see the exact same thing on my system.  My recorded TV is blurry.  My live TV is blurry.  What can we do?  I too wish we could adjust some of those settings.  The picture is horrible compared to analog cable right into the TV.  The oddly moving faces you describe are spot on and where I really notice the problem most too.  I wish I had any help to give on it.

I've been really annoyed with this problem for a few months now.  I can't believe that Avermedia would completely ignore such a huge flaw in what I assume is a very popular product.  Is it really impossible to enable users to turn off temporal de-noise?  I find it hard to believe that anyone could actually be satisfied with the analog video quality of this card.  It's a joke.

I submitted a ticket with their tech support tonight.  We'll see if I get a response.

Aberrix:

I just want to report in and say that my initial tests with the .30 drivers have solved my BSOD issues. I watched some ATSC TV last night, put the PC to sleep and later the PC woke it self up to record a scheduled show and had no problems! So far so good, I will report back in after a week or two with the final verdict.

Thanks again!

Just a follow up, 2 weeks later and still no issues. The .30 drivers have OFFICIALLY fixed any issues I had. Thanks again!

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Windows Vista Ultimate (x86) SP1
Antec Fusion 430
AMD X2 4850e (2.5GHz)
Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H
4GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 RAM
Pioneer DVD+/-RW DVR-112D
250GB Seagate Barracuda HD
2x 1TB WD Green HD
2x AverMedia M780 ATSC/NTSC

Aberrix:

Just a follow up, 2 weeks later and still no issues. The .30 drivers have OFFICIALLY fixed any issues I had. Thanks again!

Ditto for me.  The .30 drivers have stopped the blue screen issues on my Vista Media Center system.

Thanks, Felix, for making these available.

-- Pete

Halfwalker:

sneakerx:

Halfwalker:

<snip>

Everything seems to be working swimmingly.  Except for the M780 after waking up from S3 sleep.

Install the MediaCenter Standby Tool (MST).  Set it to shut down media center upon going into S3 and then restart VMC upon resuming.  That cleared up the problem for me.

OK, that seems to have done the trick, mostly.  I grabbed the latest build of MST, though that didn't seem to have any particular setting to shut down VMC.

In any case, in testing it seems to be working most of the time.  Every so often when it wakes back up, the video decoder error will be there and it will need a full reboot.

I spoke too soon.  It seems that it's actually most often that it WON'T be able to go to LiveTV or record, and only sometimes that it will work.  I haven't yet figured out what the circumstances are that make it work or not.

D.

I believe the setting under the eHome tab.  Unfortunately I can't access the MST website from where I am, but if I remember correctly it is the second option that I have selected (stop on suspend and always restart on resume).  I think I may have set the same option under the MediaPortal tab as well, but I'm only going off my memory right now.  Of course, YMMV, but after I installed MST and set this I never had a problem with the tuner crapping out on me after a resume any more.

Dear www.TheGreenButton.com community,

This is Felix from AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. again

AVerMedia Technlogies, Inc. released another version of QAM tools version V.1.0.0.12

V1.0.0.12  Nov,26 2008

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Fix     - Show "Save as" for Save button

Fix     - HRC scan with new GraphAPI

Update      - Add functionality to scan both STD and HRC frequencies

Update      - To select programs depending on the selection: Select All, Select None, Unencrypted Only

 

Please download new build from the following ftp :  

ftp.aver.com/M780

user name: beta

password: betatest

Good luck, and we, AVerMedia is looking forward to hearing your VALUABLE FEEDBACK

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Felix Kolotinsky
Product Manager
AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.

Felix,

Any chance IRC scanning is coming?

This QAM tool will tune to IRC and HRC too.

Please try it, and let us know

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Felix Kolotinsky
Product Manager
AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.