flamingwoodchuck

This could be caused by all kind of things.

There is a fair chance it’s hardware related, so update device drivers and the BIOS.

Strip your configuration down to a minimum by removing all parts not needed for testing like tuner cards and see if it still occurs.

 You can try to increase the standby delay if you have MST installed.

RikP

S3+S4 it the hybrid sleep state Vista uses by default (if available). Vista prepares the system for S4 (suspend to disk) but enters S3 (suspend to RAM).

It takes some more time compared to S3 but has the benefit to survive a power loss. For a media center PC this means your recordings will still be done, even after the power was lost while it was in S3.

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Hi,

I just started with this tool -- very cool, BTW -- and I have a question, possibly a problem.

For the first time ever, after installing your software, my HTPC was in S3 sleep when I woke up in the morning. I found that I could not access my extender (connection failure), but you mentioned this is something you may be looking into, so I'll ignore that for now :)

Once I resumed, I only saw a black screen with the top of the (minimized) Windows task bar. The machine would not respond to any keyboard or mouse commands -- but it did resume from a spacebar press. Once I hard-reset the PC, it started up normally (albeit with the 'windows did not shut down properly' message).

I'm using the beta 09093 version, and my PC is properly configured for S3 sleep (BIOS, jumpers, etc). The sleep actually seems fine -- it's the resume that's odd. Any suggestions for this issue?

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I also am having a problem:

My WHS box is not able to wake it back up after the standby tool has put it too sleep. As a result, my backups that are done at night are failing each time.

Any ideas?

Steinway

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ACraigL

Try increasing the standby delay. This will give the system the opportunity to finish things properly before it enters standby.

Try the various options of the new USB settings (since 0.9.093).

Do you have the June rollup update or KB943899 installed? They are known for causing resume problems, try uninstalling.

You may expect the extender support in the next beta that will be released soon.

Steinway

I have absolutely no experience with WHS and MST. I have never tested the combination nor know anybody using it. It’s on my list to setup a WHS box and do some testing, but that’s not the only thing there.

You should also try to increase the standby delay. Disable the “Enable USB S3 resume” since your not using an USB device to wake the box (I assume).

Also check the MST log and event viewer for irregularities.


Herman

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Slick Solutions - home of the MCE Standby Tool (MST) and LEDSdriver

hveijk:

Try increasing the standby delay. This will give the system the opportunity to finish things properly before it enters standby.

Try the various options of the new USB settings (since 0.9.093).

Do you have the June rollup update or KB943899 installed? They are known for causing resume problems, try uninstalling.

I will check the delay as well as the usb settings. Oddly, manual sleep/resume seems to work fine. Do you have any recommended values or things to try?

hveijk:

You may expect the extender support in the next beta that will be released soon.

Awesome! Let me know if you need me to test anything. Cheers!

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nMEDIAPC HTPC 500BAR
Samsung 20X DVD±R
HD HomeRun; nVidia DualTV
Linksys DMA2100; WRT600N Router
ZALMAN CNPS 8700 NT

ACraigL

I have released the beta with extender support yesterday, you can find it here.

I also have noticed your searching for a way to let your DMA wake the media center from S3.
Peter Rinder has found a pretty smart solution as you can read here.

I am also working on something that might work but that's still a little uncertain it will.

Herman

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Herman,

On the slick solutions forum I reported a problem in which MST was putting the system to sleep during recordings (either 0 min or 4 min into the recording).  you replied that this may have to do with the clock.  i do update using the windows time sever.  how would this impact it?

Thanks.

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bbimber:

Herman,

On the slick solutions forum I reported a problem in which MST was putting the system to sleep during recordings (either 0 min or 4 min into the recording).  you replied that this may have to do with the clock.  i do update using the windows time sever.  how would this impact it?

Thanks.

Sometimes when the clock is too far of MCE was unable to link the waking to a recording and went back to sleep. Seleting a proper timeserver (not the default one) often fixed this.

I have no clue if this still happens on Vista.

I have discovered something new thats more likely going to solve your problem.
Download the latest beta and set the "Unattended sleep timeout" from the "Win idle" tab to 6 minutes or even try a longer period.

I was going to mail you but I have waited until the beta with this function was done.

Please let me know your results.

Herman

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I just installed this tool hoping it will solve my problem stated in this thread:

http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/291699.aspx

But First ! ....This is an excellent tool! Keep up the good work.

I am having some trouble with a setting:

"Suspend when Media Center is running and idle"

I was hoping to use this to solve my PC's inability to go to sleep when VMC is running.

It does put my PC to sleep but there is one problem:

MST tries to put the PC to sleep even when there is a recording going on.

I get this error in the event log:

Recording of Tequila Sunrise began on 09/08/2008 12:50:55 while the program was already in progress and was interrupted when the machine was powered off or the recording service was stopped.

I dont want MST to put my PC to sleep while a recording is going on.

Is there anything I can do about it?

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-Rajiv

This absolutely should not be happening.

- Do you have the TV pack installed?
- What tuner hardware do you have?
- Could you please send me a log of the situation?

Herman

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I've noticed a couple of people experiencing problems with MST and WHS backups. I had some similar problems which I think are now solved so thought I would share.

First, I found I needed MST once I started streaming media from my WHS box, because otherwise my HTPCs would not put themselves to sleep after playing media.  MST made them go back to sleep, but then overnight WHS backups were failing.  The WHS backup message was something like "the network connection was lost and could not be reestablished..."

Changing settings in my HTPC network drivers seems to have solved the problem.  I have onboard Intel gigabit network drivers which have the "Wake on Magic Packet" option under power management checked by default, but "Wake on directed packet" is not.  When I check both options WHS backups work fine.  I'm not sure how this might relate to non-Intel drivers.

I've also checked "Suspend when recording or guide update is finished" and "Assume unattended resume is a recording or guide update" in MST Idle settings.  I'm not sure how essential this is for WHS backups, but it's all working fine. 

At this moment MST is not WHS aware. MST will suspend the system because it does not detect the backup process.

The only way to resolve this is uncheck “Suspend when a recording or guide update is finished” but this might just one of the main reasons why your running MST.

A very nice guy at a huge software company was able to get me a WHS license (thanks P.) .

I hope to setup a WHS soon and add dedicated support in the near future.

Herman

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Slick Solutions - home of the MCE Standby Tool (MST) and LEDSdriver

Hi Herman,

Yep, I'm hitting this problem too, with WHS backups not completing - will try removing the suspend option and see how that affects my system.

Thanks
Tony

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hveijk:

The only way to resolve this is uncheck “Suspend when a recording or guide update is finished” but this might just one of the main reasons why your running MST.

I definitely have MST and WHS backups working with both "Suspend when a recording or guide update is finished" and "Assume any unattended resume is a recording or TV guide update" checked.

I look forward to any dedicated support support you're able to add for WHS Herman.  Thanks for the great support generally.

Hi,

Firstly, I use MCE Standby Tool and think it's a great programme, but I have a problem with my MCE system that is only partially solved by MST..

My PC is a factory built Media PC (Advent DHE-1000), with a low profile case designed to fit in with a Home Cinema system. The fans switch off just fine in S3 standby mode.

My problem is that, when in Standby, the PC will startup on it's own, completely randomly. This happens 3 or 4 times an hour. Since installing MST, it now shuts down again (most times--not always), but I still have the problem with random startups.

Is there a check-box in MST that would fix this?