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video library app for viewing videos/movies and tv episodes with metadata
Last post 40 minutes ago by JJohnson. 1231 replies.
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07-27-2008, 6:11 PM |
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
JackLuminous:How does this sound to everyone? Reasonable? Too many clicks? My objective is to provide the functionality while making the UI not require ANY explanation. (I am tried of typing >:-) )
I don't use the movies portion of this too much, so don't know how valuable my feedback would be. But....
I think that flow sounds good, nice and simple. Not many clicks at all. Are you still using movies-xml.com for the movie data? If so, perhaps in step #3 if there are no matches, you could have the message say something like "Movie details were not found. Please consider contributing the information to www.movie-xml.com".
Also, since it seams to have come up several times, have you considered having the search omit the year if the user has the year in their filename for the movie (assuming you use the filename for the search)? So that situations like radeonorama was running into are handled easier when manually finding the info.
Keep up the good work!
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07-27-2008, 6:34 PM |
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schleppel
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
Woohoo!!!
I can now officially run this on all VMCs throughout my house! I have spanned folders working great! This being fixed allowed me to test the new treatment of metadata (4 series on a different drive), which is also quite good. I never really had any problems with the way it was working before, but now it simply opens and updates as it goes, which makes things a little faster (but actual metadata collection is a bit slower, as expected). I have finally gotten all of my movies with metadata also (thanks for adding the ID field back into searches, helped no end) so everything is working a real treat! Play random rocks, and it's adding new episodes fine aswell.
I haven't had to add any new seasons yet, so that's not bothering me too much (altho september they'll be active, but my metadata loads fine), but I've deliberately not changed any images in my metadata knowing I have to re-generate them again later (I like my images better than the one's it gets by default for some shows).
JL, you're still a superstar, everything is working fantastically for me!
Keep up the great work, looking forward to trying out the FindUI (altho, I happily get around it).
P.S. Subtle reminder about the skipping with letters, as I've just got over 400 movies, which is kinda hard to scroll through on one line :) Doesn't need to be 2 lines, as that's UI, just the ability to hit "F" and skip down the line to movies starting with "F" :)
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07-27-2008, 6:38 PM |
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travisbell
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
schleppel:P.S. Subtle reminder about the skipping with letters, as I've just got over 400 movies, which is kinda hard to scroll through on one line :) Doesn't need to be 2 lines, as that's UI, just the ability to hit "F" and skip down the line to movies starting with "F" :)
Yup, this app is maturing very, very nicely. Best one I know of, hands down. Keep up the great work!
I second this request since I am used to using it as well, and yea, in my movie folder (which only has maybe 100 titles) it can take a while to get to the movie you're after.
-- Travis Bell themoviedb.org | The open movie database
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07-27-2008, 7:01 PM |
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
Great idea. I'll do that. That will make people aware of it and, hopefully, help with keeping it updated.
notyouraccount:
Are you still using movies-xml.com for the movie data? If so, perhaps in step #3 if there are no matches, you could have the message say something like "Movie details were not found. Please consider contributing the information to www.movie-xml.com".
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07-27-2008, 7:06 PM |
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
LOL..good to hear! Sorry it took so long to identify and fix that problem. Reminder noted. Yes, that would bite having to sequentially scroll through all that media...eek.
schleppel:
Woohoo!!!
I can now officially run this on all VMCs throughout my house! I have spanned folders working great! This being fixed allowed me to test the new treatment of metadata (4 series on a different drive), which is also quite good. I never really had any problems with the way it was working before, but now it simply opens and updates as it goes, which makes things a little faster (but actual metadata collection is a bit slower, as expected). I have finally gotten all of my movies with metadata also (thanks for adding the ID field back into searches, helped no end) so everything is working a real treat! Play random rocks, and it's adding new episodes fine aswell.
I haven't had to add any new seasons yet, so that's not bothering me too much (altho september they'll be active, but my metadata loads fine), but I've deliberately not changed any images in my metadata knowing I have to re-generate them again later (I like my images better than the one's it gets by default for some shows).
JL, you're still a superstar, everything is working fantastically for me!
Keep up the great work, looking forward to trying out the FindUI (altho, I happily get around it).
P.S. Subtle reminder about the skipping with letters, as I've just got over 400 movies, which is kinda hard to scroll through on one line :) Doesn't need to be 2 lines, as that's UI, just the ability to hit "F" and skip down the line to movies starting with "F" :)
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07-28-2008, 1:27 AM |
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Mikegb
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
HI All
This app is coming along pretty well, thanks for this, have been trying to find a good replacement for TVcollection manager for a while.
The only issue I am have (and its small) is that out of all the tv series that I have CSI Miami is the only one where it will not get any metadata for the seasons. It gets info for the series and gets season pictures etc but no info for the episodes.
My format is CSI Miami - 6x14 - You May Now Kill The Bride.avi
Any ideas.
Also would be good to have banners stacked on the main page rather than dvd covers (I think banners look better but that might just be me!)
Thank for the great work on this
Mike
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07-28-2008, 1:31 AM |
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radeonorama
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
Just when i though things were totally amazing with this plugin, eveything just gets even more so!!! I cant wait for this UI!! I think noyouraccount's idea for the UI is Great.
Thanks for all of your help with everything Notyouraccount. I was up untill 1.30am last night getting my movies in order! Thanks again.
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07-28-2008, 8:52 AM |
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anastasis
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
Would somebody mind writing up a quick walkthrough on the setup?
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07-30-2008, 11:08 AM |
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haubrija
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
anastasis:Would somebody mind writing up a quick walkthrough on the setup?
I was wondering the same thing. I've read through most of the thread and there's some references to a readme which isn't in the zip with the installer as far as I could see. Am I missing something? Would love to try this out.
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07-30-2008, 7:23 PM |
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
anastasis:Would somebody mind writing up a quick walkthrough on the setup?
Super-fly-by-drive-by cliff notes:
1. Install app
2. App defaults the watchedfolders to c:\public\videos\, whatever your recorded TV is set to record to, any watched recorded tv folders, and whatever your dvd library is pulling from. There is no currently no UI support to edit this list. To do so, go to C:\ProgramData\VideoLibrary\videolibrary.dll.config. It's an xml-based config file
3. The plug in shows up under TV+Movies. Launch it.
4. By default, it will recognize ripped tv shows as "SeriesName-SxxExx-EpisodeName.[avi|mpg|mkv|...].
5. If you don't use this naming scheme then go to the config file and change the ArchivedTVExpression to one of those in the first post on this over-long thread.
6. It will try to recognize ripped tv shows using the setting in #5 above and download metadata from thetvdb.com
7. If a video is not recognized as archived tv, it will assume its a movie and attempt to download metadata from movie-xml.com
8. Metadata is stored in a hidden subfolder called ".metadata". This subfolder exists in each folder containing content (video, series, season folders, etc.)
I don't mean to sound hasty but examine your content folders (from #1). If you're not a tinkerer this app is not at the level for you --yet. If, however, you don't mind "...seeing where it keeps its brains.." then...
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07-30-2008, 7:50 PM |
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
Just stopping in to provide a quick update. UI stuff started, and JIL is almost complete. Technically it's done except for an annoying pause before you see the JIL key displayed in the lower right hand corner. It's like a 2+ second delay before the key shows up. I only intend to implement a first-character jump ie. "F" or "G" will go to the first item starting with that character.
The JIL is all based on Ahelseth's excellent blog post. Many thanks for that, good sir!
Reference: http://mytv.senseitweb.com/blogs/mytv/archive/2007/11/22/implementing-jil-jump-in-list-in-your-mcml-application.aspx
Once I fix that annoying pause before it starts doing anything, I think I can call JIL a done deal.
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07-30-2008, 8:31 PM |
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travisbell
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07-30-2008, 11:37 PM |
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anastasis
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
Thanks Jack. I need to play with the regex settings.
Can I copy the "archived" line and make multiple entries to enable support for multiple formats in the file name?
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07-31-2008, 6:11 AM |
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
anastasis:Thanks Jack. I need to play with the regex settings.
Can I copy the "archived" line and make multiple entries to enable support for multiple formats in the file name?
Unfortunately, right now only one expression is supported at a time. Note that, because the file is an xml-file, certain characters have to be 'escaped'. For example if you have < or > in the regex, it has to be changed to < and >
Which bring me back to this question:
What are the 4 (or 5) common naming schemes you guys are using? To increase the out-of-box experience, I want to have 4 or 5 built-in regexes that the engine will use when identifying 'archived tv' video. the ArchivedTVExpression will still be there for users who wan' be speshal. :-P.
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07-31-2008, 6:42 AM |
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lar77
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Re: Proof-of-concept for a tv library app for watching series in order
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I'm really looking forward to being able to use this for my
TV shows (recorded and downloaded) but I'm not really comfortable with all the
tinkering required at the min so I guess I'll just have to wait. When it is "basic
user friendly" am I going to have to change all my TV episode names, at
the minute I use different formats for different shows for no real logical
reason i.e. Heroes S1E01 or S1E03
Brothers & Sisters. I never put the episode name ….. it's just too long a
lot of the time. This is going to cause me pain, right?
EDIT: I have no idea why all that code text is above my post and no idea how to get rid of it.
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