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Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

Last post 12-21-2008, 1:34 PM by Roaders. 81 replies.
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  •  12-27-2007, 8:48 PM 230691 in reply to 181580

    Re: Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

    I need some help!!!

    I followed rhese instructions exactly as posted.  When I opened VMC and tried to watch some Recorded TV, it told me there were no recorded shows available, even though I can see the recorded shows on my WHS network share and VMC is being told to monitor the folder on my WHS.

    Also (and this pisses me off), for some reason, when I click on Live TV, an error message appears and says something to the effect of "Component Missing.  Please restart Media Center."

    Whereas I used to be able to watch TV in VMC, I can't do it anymore.  My Vides and Music are now hosted on my VMC and work great.

    Any suggestions?  Surely somebody knows the answer to this.  Thanks in advance and happy holidays!

  •  12-28-2007, 3:51 PM 230872 in reply to 230691

    Re: Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

    I figured out the problem.

    In the steps listed on page 1, it says to change the registry settings on your VMC box and point the Recorded TV folder to \\servername\Recorded TV

    For some reason, VMC hates folder addresses that point to a \\servername folder.  To fix this, I followed the steps outlined to allow Anonymous login rights on my WHS.  Next, on my VMC box, I mapped each folder I needed from my WHS box as a separate drive.  I then changed the registry settings so my Recorded TV folder now shows up as "e:\Recorded TV" although it is really pointing to "\\servername\Recorded TV"

  •  12-28-2007, 5:28 PM 230892 in reply to 230872

    Re: Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

    sevendustweb:

    I figured out the problem.

    In the steps listed on page 1, it says to change the registry settings on your VMC box and point the Recorded TV folder to \\servername\Recorded TV

    For some reason, VMC hates folder addresses that point to a \\servername folder.  To fix this, I followed the steps outlined to allow Anonymous login rights on my WHS.  Next, on my VMC box, I mapped each folder I needed from my WHS box as a separate drive.  I then changed the registry settings so my Recorded TV folder now shows up as "e:\Recorded TV" although it is really pointing to "\\servername\Recorded TV"

    I used a simular work arround. I changed Recorded Tv from C:/users/public/Recorded TV to a separate drive on the same computer like D:/Recorded TV

    rebooted and verified that everything worked fine.

    Then I could change Recorded TV on the D drive for a shared folder from a networked computer.

  •  01-06-2008, 11:21 PM 233340 in reply to 230892

    Re: Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

    I went around in circles with this today as well.

    I followed the steps, but the key for me was making sure EACH and EVERY file in the Recorded TV share had ANONYMOUS LOGON set for FULL control.

    Even if the folder had all the rights, this wouldn't work.  As an FYI for those like me that may not know, once you have the regedits done, event if you can't see the files from the WHS once you get the proper access they appear in the Recorded TV listing in Vista Media Center.

    What would be the script for changing the batch file for setting all files in the folder to anonymous logon with full control.  I think I am going to add that to the batch file so I don't have to do that again.

    Would you add the /T call to the cacls line?

    I was able to get Vista to accept the share \\server name here \Recorded TV to work.  I also had the share mapped, but did not need to go that route.

  •  01-12-2008, 9:38 AM 235440 in reply to 181580

    Re: Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

    I am new to Vista MCE and WHS.  I recently bought a new cablecard PC and a HP EX470 home server.  The setup has gone very smooth though I have hit a brick wall.  I was expecting to be able to record TV to my WHS out of the box (supported functionality).  Does anyone know if MS is adding this functionality?  I think it is a huge gap.

    Anyways, I found this work around (thanks), but I am having difficulties getting started.  When the instructructions say "Settings for Windows Home Server.  1 In Run, type "gpedit.msc", then click OK ...".  How do you "run" a program in WHS.  It seems like everything is icon based within the console.  I have spent a few hours looking for this.  Any assistance would be appreciated,

    Pitter

  •  01-12-2008, 11:17 AM 235475 in reply to 235440

    Re: Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

    You have to remote desktop to the EX470.
    That's a nice box, isn't it? I didn't expect it to be so small.
  •  01-28-2008, 12:42 PM 239490 in reply to 217809

    Re: Playing recorded tv or recording live tv to WHS.

    I've finally got an aerial connection in the room with my MC now so I've set this up again and thought I'd post my slightly easier method this time round:

    NOTE: If you don't mind the 'paused TV' temporary files recording to the local drive then you can skip step 8 and remove the 'pauseloc' line (i.e. the 3rd line) from step 5.

    I need them to record on the server as the local drive is a 2GB Compactflash card, but you might also want to do this if using a hard drive because you'll have less noise from disk activity.

    ON THE SERVER
    1. Create an account for the Media Centre on the WHS with a password.

    I didn't want to use up one of my 10 WHS client licenses so I used Start > Run > control userpasswords2 > Advanced > Advanced > Add.


    2. Create the folder that you want the Recorded TV to be stored in (and in my case also the temporary Pause-files). In this example the folder is 'G:\Recorded\'.

    I'm keeping this folder on a drive that sits outside the WHS drive pool (G:\) as I've noticed writing to the WHS 'shares' folders can be sometimes be quite slow, especially when demigrator.exe is doing its thing...


    3. Set the necessary permissions on that folder - just set the user to full access in both 'Sharing' and 'Security'. Make sure you can write to this folder from the MCE PC (try saving a file there or creating a new folder).

    ON THE MC
    4.  Shut the Media Centre app down. Create a batch file called 'tvsetup1.bat' containing this:

    net use T: /delete
    schtasks /run /tn tvsetup


    I don't think the first line is needed but it certainly doesn't do any harm...


    5. Create a batch file called 'tvsetup2.bat containing this:

    net use T: \\*WHSServerNameHere*\Recorded *PasswordHere* /user:*WorkgroupName*\*Username*
    regedit.exe /s c:\regkeys\recloc.reg
    regedit.exe /s c:\regkeys\pauseloc.reg
    C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehshell.exe


    6. Create a scheduled task called 'tvsetup' which runs 'tvsetup2.bat', and is set to run once in the past (tvsetup1 will run this task when needed so it doesn't need a schedule).


    7. Open regedit and navigate to
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Service\Recording]
    Change the value in RecordPath and WatchedFolders to whatever are appropriate (using the drive letters you'll be using - not UNC references!. I.e. mine is 'T:\Recorded').

    Export this registry key and save it as 'c:\
    regkeys\recloc.reg':


    8. Do the same for the Paused TV location if you want the paused TV to record to the network drive too.

    Export this registry key and call it 'c:\regkeys\pauseloc'. It should look like this:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Service\Video\Tuners\DVR\IO\Writer]
    "DVRDirectory"="T:\\Recorded\\TempRec\\"
    "FirstTemporaryBackingFileName"=""
    "DeleteRingBufferFiles"=dword:00000001


    9. Stop MCE from starting when the computer boots (it's an option in MCE under Settings somewhere) as the batch files above need to run first; tvsetup2 will launch MCE one it's finished.

    10. Start >
    Run > gpedit.msc
    Add tvsetup1.bat to 'User Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts (Logon/Logoff).

    That should be it - I think i've remembered everything there.

    Test it like this:

    Run tvsetup1.bat.
    Check that the system account can see T: (or whatever drive you chose in Step 5) as follows:
    start > run > cmd
    type: 'at time+1min /interactive cmd'
    where time+1min is the current time plus one minute. I.e. if it's 12:20, type:
    at 12:21 /interactive cmd
    When it gets to that time you should get a new cmd window starting at c:\windows\system32>
    Type 't:'
    Assuiming it brings up the t: drive and you can create files there then you're good to go!

    To test, you're best off rebooting, although this method doesn't require the computer to be restarted - it's just the Media Centre app that needs restarting. If it doesn't seem to be working after a reboot, check the registry entries have been made and that it hasn't reverted to c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\... as the record path.

    And finally, install
    Rosetta@Home on all those MCE and WHS machines so they can be doing something really useful when they'd otherwise be sat idling! Smile [:)]


    Put your unused CPU cycles to good use:

    boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta
  •  02-01-2008, 5:53 PM 240532 in reply to 199125

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    My favorite part about this not working is that you can open the network files with Media Center, but it refuses to add them to the Recorded TV section.

    Another fun note is that I had this setup and running in less than 10 minutes with Server 2008.


    PC (HTPC): Vista x64 • AMD X2 4800+ • 2GB DDR400 • eVGA 7800 GT • 250GB HDD
    SERVER: WHS • CM Stacker 810 • 3.4TB Storage • 300+DVDs • 19,000+ MP3s
  •  02-21-2008, 7:10 AM 245204 in reply to 240532

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    All i want is to store my recorded tv on my WHS.  I want it to show up in Recorded tv section of vista.  also want it available on my 360

    what do i need to change?  i dont want to record to the WHS.  thanks


    VMC: HP d5100t, 3 cablecards, Linksys dma2100
    Server 1: WHS Quad Core, 4.5TB Storage and growing.
    Display: 42 inch LCD and 92" HD Projector.
  •  02-21-2008, 8:32 AM 245239 in reply to 245204

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    killervette:
    All i want is to store my recorded tv on my WHS.  I want it to show up in Recorded tv section of vista.  also want it available on my 360

    what do i need to change?  i dont want to record to the WHS.  thanks

    If you need the Xbox360 (or the V2 extenders) and Media Center PC too see the recorded TV on WHS go here http://iandixon.co.uk/cs/forums/1/4534/ShowThread.aspx

     

     


    Richard Miller Media Center MVP 2006
  •  02-21-2008, 8:39 AM 245242 in reply to 245239

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    I saw that but i dont have WATCHEDFOLDERS in the registry

    1 Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Media Center\Service\Recording

    Double click the "WatchedFolders" key  - NOT THERE???



    VMC: HP d5100t, 3 cablecards, Linksys dma2100
    Server 1: WHS Quad Core, 4.5TB Storage and growing.
    Display: 42 inch LCD and 92" HD Projector.
  •  02-21-2008, 1:02 PM 245323 in reply to 245242

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    Got it working...thanks richard.  works great on vista and my Xbox 360.
    VMC: HP d5100t, 3 cablecards, Linksys dma2100
    Server 1: WHS Quad Core, 4.5TB Storage and growing.
    Display: 42 inch LCD and 92" HD Projector.
  •  02-21-2008, 1:14 PM 245327 in reply to 245323

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    @KillerVette: Good news Smile [:)]Thanks for posting back that its working.
    Richard Miller Media Center MVP 2006
  •  02-26-2008, 5:07 PM 246577 in reply to 245327

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    I have been tinkering with this for weeks, no luck.  Here are some screenshots:

    WHS with correct permissions and settings.

    VMC with WatchedFolders set.  Z:\ is mapped to \\Server\RecTV

    What gives?


    PC (HTPC): Vista x64 • AMD X2 4800+ • 2GB DDR400 • eVGA 7800 GT • 250GB HDD
    SERVER: WHS • CM Stacker 810 • 3.4TB Storage • 300+DVDs • 19,000+ MP3s
  •  02-27-2008, 10:10 AM 246732 in reply to 246577

    Re: Problems setting this up - need help please!

    In the first screenshot you have “Anonymous logon” and “Everyone” but it’s inheriting other permission from parent folder (Parent folder is D:\shares). it should show only  “Anonymous logon” and “Everyone” .

     

    Go to WHS share folder then right click your recorded TV folder (RecTV) then Properties then Security Tab, click on that “Advanced” button (lower right) and clear the "Inherit from parent the permission entries that apply to child objects.Include these with entries explicitly defined here"  make sure that the check box is uncheck.

     

    Log off WHS (do not boot WHS)

    Reboot Vista that should work.


    Richard Miller Media Center MVP 2006
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