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** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Version 1.0 - Finally it's here **

Last post 11-16-2008, 5:55 PM by JenkTJ27. 68 replies.
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  •  07-08-2008, 3:34 PM 273043 in reply to 273042

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I have used it on a Dell XPS 420 and another general Sideshow device with no issues on the Guide side.

    Chris Lanier
    The Green Button Forum Moderator
  •  07-10-2008, 4:06 PM 273683 in reply to 273043

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I have tried this but it seems to require a Bluetooth connection between PDA (in my case a Dell Axim x51v running WM5) and your PC.  Why would this have been developed to use BT rather than wifi?  Will it be enhanced to also work over wifi?  Or does that not make sense given how Sideshow works?

    (I only have an older Kensington Bluetooth USB adapter and I can't get it to install in Vista for some reason - it worked fine on my old laptop with XP Pro).

  •  07-10-2008, 5:30 PM 273703 in reply to 273683

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    doesnt work on the logitech g15

    i assume its because logitech didnt program any controls into the lcd buttons, so its display only :/

  •  07-10-2008, 6:31 PM 273719 in reply to 273043

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I noticed today that it actually has the Extender proxy functions installed somewhere because it crashes when you connect an Extender to the PC.  Smile [:)]

    Chris Lanier
    The Green Button Forum Moderator
  •  07-10-2008, 7:20 PM 273724 in reply to 273719

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I noticed today that it actually has the Extender proxy functions installed somewhere because it crashes when you connect an Extender to the PC.  Smile <img src=">


    I wonder if that is why I can't get my guide data to work... I've got a DMA2100 running in the bedroom.

    sYn

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  •  07-18-2008, 6:38 AM 275457 in reply to 271353

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I cant't get it to work on my Vista 64 system (I used the x86 installer, not the amd64 one).

    It installs OK and appears to start up (the 4 components are in control panel, when ticked they appear on the screen of my Vave 100 BETA remote) but then I get a message from Windows saying it's stopped working and no fix is possible so it will be closed....

    Beta ****ware at the moment, nice if it worked...

  •  07-31-2008, 8:27 PM 279890 in reply to 271652

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    bjdraw:
    Well you have to admit that most people use a remote to control a device that is in the same room.

    I'm alsmost scared to ask how you'd plan to use a remote to control something in another room, not to mention BT does work all the way across my house. (not a big house though)

    That reminds me a something I find very odd. My BT headset doesn't work that well if it's on the oposite side of my body as my phone, but I can leave my phone in my office and walk around my house just fine -- it is a one story though.

    Either way, I'd much rather pair a BT device with my VMC, then to have to enter in a 25 character alpha-numeric WPA key into a remote.



    Well, for example, currently I use an RF remote to control MCE from my living room (with MCE machine in basement).  I've been doing it this way for a couple of years an d it works very very well.  I have an RF remote from Universal Remote (MX-850 model) with a little base station in the basement that takes in the RF signal and converts it to IR for the MCE box and receiver (and cable box, etc).

    However, if you don't think wifi is a good solution for this sort of thing then I'd suggest looking at the "Remote" app that Apple released recently for the iPhone/Touch.  It's wifi and it works flawlessly (I've been using it with two Airport Expresses). 

    ---begin rant---

    I'd love to have this sort of thing for MCE.  Frankly, it's kind of crazy that the technology for this exists in Windows (Sideshow) and it's been sitting around virtually unused by anyone for two years.  Nice to see it coming together finally, but two years later?  By the way, MSFT already has it's own wireless device with ideal media controls (Zune) that doesn't support Sideshow.  That sucks.

    Man, wouldn't it be nice for the various companies inside MSFT to come together and act like one?  You know, maybe solve the ridiculous media library organization issue in MCE (that people seem to blame on WMP), or I don't know, add podcast support to MCE like it exists in Zune?  Or maybe pick a *single* media player between WMP and Zune?  Or, heh, add some of the Xbox360 dashboard features that don't exist in extender mode?  It's shocking how unintegrated these are.

    ---end rant---

    Wow, sorry, that was an unexpected rant!  My apologies!!! 

    Back on topic:  To each his own I guess.  But with an effective range of 30 feet, I just don't think Bluetooth is adequate for a sideshow MCE control app (at least for my usage).  I don't know, isn't the whole point of Sideshow to control the system when you're *not* sitting in front of the TV? 

    Aaron
  •  08-06-2008, 11:46 PM 281878 in reply to 279890

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    Hi,

    I got it to work on a USB Bluetooth dongle with 300 feet of coverage, which suits my needs just fine. As you also state, that the point of having sideshow on a PDA/Remote is actually not sitting in front of the TV/Monitor, but far away.

    Unfortunally on my PDA this only worked 1 time - right after install. After a suspend of power on the PC (Vista 32 bit) and switched off/on the PDA (Windows Mobile 5.0), I was not able to connect again. Reinstall the gadgets on both the PC and PDA helps, but only until next reconnect. Anybody has idea?

    The TV option did not work either, so for my sake, I can only agree to the fact that this is Beta.

    /Jesper


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  •  08-07-2008, 4:56 PM 282214 in reply to 281878

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I'm quite keyed up on Bluetooth and how to set it up and stuff like that and although I could question its use in this situation, I do think its being put to good use here (considering its a low power technology IIRC - which means longer battery life).

    My serious concern at the moment is whether you are able to wake a device from Bluetooth as in my laptop, I cannot. (Using the integrated Dell Truemobile 355 Bluetooth + EDR Module). This means you will be unable to switch on the Media Center using this particular software/remote.

    I currently use a Sony PS3 remote for my media center (running VMC) and it seems to work ok apart from the fact I can't bring the computer out a standby due to the bluetooth limitations.

    However, I am unsure as to whether this is the case with all bluetooth dongles, as an USB bluetooth dongle might be able to do this. - could someone who knows how to, check this please?

    For those that are complaining they will have to get a bluetooth dongle, you can get a sufficient Bluetooth v2.0 dongle for <$6 (check: http://www.dealextreme.com/). Delivery is free to quite a few places including UK & US. These dongles can be made to work with the integrated Microsoft Bluetooth Stack (software), so you don't have to use the dodgy software that comes with it.

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  •  09-11-2008, 11:11 AM 292788 in reply to 282214

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    The Release Candidate build of the Windows Media Center Gadgets for Windows SideShow has been released, see here for more information.


    Stu

    aka C-Dub



    The Windows Media Center Blog

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  •  09-11-2008, 10:50 PM 292996 in reply to 292788

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    Well I am still disappointed with this SideShow gadget, I still cannot access any of my pictures and videos, because I am like most people not using watch folders for pictures and videos and using the shortcut method instead so I don't get things appearing in VMC where I don't want them too, due to Microsoft's mess they call a media library.

    A slight improvement in one area lol, I now get the default music note icon instead of a red cross on music cover art. I don't get any covers showing as I am using hi-res Folder.jpg's and not the crappy 200x200 system generated covers.

    Could the SideShow team add some code to look for Folder.jpg's in the albums folder if no cached images are found? Or you could even use the URLToCoverArt.dat file as that would work for both situations, for the cached guid . jpg's the system creates and our Hi-Res Folder.jpg's as the dat file just tells MCE where the jpg is located for an album.

    Also it doesn't install on TV Pack versions.

    Bit of a let down after a long wait to see this in action! So its pretty useless to me, I am wating for ngRC version 2 instead.

    EDIT: I've added feedback to MS here about my issues with the Gadgets

    https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=367354&SiteID=312

    Doubt it will do any good however as I am not using default 200x200 cover art or using watch folders for pictures and videos, so my library is all messed up in VMC!

     

     


    Stu

    aka C-Dub



    The Windows Media Center Blog

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  •  09-12-2008, 7:06 AM 293093 in reply to 292996

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    Has anyone tried this with an Extender yet?  Hopefully I'll have time to try it out tonight.
  •  09-12-2008, 7:37 AM 293116 in reply to 293093

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    joshbish:
    Has anyone tried this with an Extender yet?  Hopefully I'll have time to try it out tonight.

    I've not tried it on an extender yet!

    I've been adding metadata tags to my photos and I've added a watch folder in WMP11 library to the location of my photos. So now my photos are in the WMP11 library, this then enables the photos to be displayed in the MCE SideShow Gadget.

    No option to display the photos by tags however like in VMC. It just list the file names of the photos, most of mine are just named DSCN123.jpg or what ever my camera named the photo, so browsing by file name is totally pointless, There is an option to play a photo slideshow on the TV but not on the device.

    The only options are to list by Folder or by Date which is pretty weak. MS could do much better with this! SideShow team are you seeing this?


    Stu

    aka C-Dub



    The Windows Media Center Blog

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  •  09-12-2008, 9:03 AM 293149 in reply to 293116

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I've just switched on my XBOX 360 MCX and closed Media Center on the PC first, launched the SideShow Device Simulator program. I then went to the Music Library in the MCE gadget and selected an album it then launched the Media Center program on the PC.

    Not sure how I get it to control the extender?

    There doesn't appear to be a way of knowing or telling it which Media Center you want to control either the main Media Center PC or one of your extenders, I am obviously missing something here?

    In the email it said: "Additional instructions have been added to the Installation Instructions page about using the gadgets with an extender"

    But when you look at that page it mentions nothing about extenders!

    Also under known issues it said: "Enabling the Gadgets for more than one user session on your PC is not supported for Beta"

    Not sure if this still applies to the RC1 release?

    Also another really wierd thing I have not seen before the album I selected to play, did start to play on the Media Center PC but then it randomly changes and displays another track from a totally different album but doesn't play that track, very strange!

    This all feels like a beta to me still not sure how soon MS were hoping to release this on the SideShow Gallery.....

     


    Stu

    aka C-Dub



    The Windows Media Center Blog

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  •  09-12-2008, 9:32 AM 293162 in reply to 293149

    Re: ** Media Center - SideShow Gadget Beta 1 - Finally it's here **

    I'm also randomly seeing this error, even when the SideShow Device Emulator program is not doing anything and I am not using it but it is open in the back ground.


    Stu

    aka C-Dub



    The Windows Media Center Blog

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