I will see if I can explain even though I am not in front of MCE PC.

 

The CNN shared channel is in the guide with no data, If you go into the guide setup then “Add Missing Channels“ and manually add the CNN channel 202 (even though the CNN channel is already there).

Then in the guide setup remap that channel CNNHD to CNNHD.

 

If you then look in the XML file in the egp folder (after adding manually adding CNN) you will see the CNN channel looks complete different than the other shared HD channels.

 

Looks like this worked,  after two days all the HD shared lost data except for the CNN channel, the CNNHD channel still had data.

 

So that’s basically it, but tomorrow I will have the correct steps.

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In the guide setup go to “Add Missing Channels” enter the channel name e.g. “SCIHD” click next.

Then enter the channel number (e.g. “284”) for SCIHD and click the "Add" button.

Then click on “Assign Channel 284 to SCIHD”.

Then in the Guide setup go to “Add Guide Listing to Channel” click on “284 SCIHD”

Then move down the list to “(Digital Science Channel HD Satellite”) and save.

 

The guide now will not lose any data for that HD channel (284), do the same thing for all the other shared HD channels. 

 

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Manaully adding the guide info in to the guide setup worked.
The shared HD channels all have guide data after a week now, before the guide data after two days would have failed.

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Worked for me too, though I've only tried one forced update of the guide -- but before, that was enough to "lose" the channel.

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jcf:

Worked for me too, though I've only tried one forced update of the guide -- but before, that was enough to "lose" the channel.

@jcf:  glad that worked for you, sorry it took me so long to find a fix.

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As a side note, when I did this (I noticed later) my channel "3" (NBC) went from "WAVE" to "WAVEDT", and for a day, my channel icon was missing in the guide, even though the channel worked (and no, WAVE wasn't one of the channels I edited).

This is a work-around, not a solution.

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I would like to reopen this thread to anybody that has been working on this. I know it is 5 months old now, but I am still seeing the SAME PROBLEM as you guys have described in this entire post. I don't understand how microsoft could let this go on for soooooo long. This has been a problem since last year.  I didn't have this problem when I had DishNetwork but now that I have DirecTV I have to re-edit my guide channels to get the listings to come back. Now with Direct having so many HD channels its hard to keep up with the ones that lose the data.

Does anybody know from Microsoft what is being done about this? Also, as somebody stated, why do they even include the HD channels in the listing anyway?

I hope this gets fixed when they release the DirecTV tuner for Vista Media Center. Waiting patiently, we'll see when that gets released. Maybe now that they are concentrating on DirecTV they will finally fix this.

Thanks for any update anybody has.

It's still broken for me, and there are other threads about the issue here. FOODTV has not been broken for me since the HD listings started matching the SD listings -- now I just select the HD channel, but other non-shared channels start breaking over time, as well as shared channels, and I start seeing multiple "ghost entries" (listings for a channel duplicated with a blank box for the assigned channel number, as has been described above in this thread) for channels I've manually added listings to to fix.

I'm currently having to completely reset my guide once a week, as it keeps breaking so badly that it's more work to rebuild the guide every morning than to reset it, and let it build up.

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I am seeing this as well... should have been a fix a LONG time ago.

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Hi All

Looks like there may have been an issue that caused some HD guide information on shared channels for DirecTv headends to go missing.  We are working to get this resolved as soon as possible.

Thanks

J 

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I'd still like to know why there are shared channels at all since you can't record DIRECTV in HD anyway!?!  Can't they just be collapsed into 1 channel each?

There are even channels in there like Smithsonian HD, HD Net, Starz Comedy, etc that are HD only but still listed in this guide.

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Can't blaim MS for that.... I can tune them with my DTV STB and watch them via downsampled Svideo... I might add the picture quality is still quite good.

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rgreenpc:

Can't blaim MS for that.... I can tune them with my DTV STB and watch them via downsampled Svideo... I might add the picture quality is still quite good.

But even the HD receivers will only tune one of the channels, why show it twice?  Maybe they need two lineups, SD only and HD.

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Kind of missing the point 

"The switch from analog to digital broadcast television is referred to as the digital TV (DTV) transition. In 1996, the U.S. Congress authorized the distribution of an additional broadcast channel to each broadcast TV station so that they could start a digital broadcast channel while simultaneously continuing their analog broadcast channel. Later, Congress mandated that February 17, 2009 would be the last day for full-power television stations to broadcast in analog. Broadcast stations in all U.S. markets are currently broadcasting in both analog and digital. After February 17, 2009, full-power television stations will broadcast in digital only."

you are 6 months away from SD going the way of the dinosaur.

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I believe you are missing the point csise.  The quote you have posted is for "broadcast" television only. After February 17, 2009 satellite and cable providers will still be providing channels in standard analog definition.

The point of this thread is "Why have 3 different listings for the same channel that has the same content?" 

I have my DTV HD box connected to my computer through composite cables (RCA). This allows me to recieve all of my HD channels, just downsampled to 480i. Which honestly on my 26" i can barely distinguish the difference between it and OTA HD. I also have my DTV HD box set to hide SD duplicate channels. This way when I put in channel 244 for scifi I automatically get the HD feed.

 Either way, the channel guide doesn't need to have 3 different channels, it only needs 1. No matter whether I choose SCIFI or SCIFIHD in the guide, it is still only going to send out 244 to the STB. What is the point of having them seperated?

I am going to try and sit down and manually change all of my channels to the listing, but we'll see.