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Nero 7 HD DVD Playback? Goodbye Cyberlink!

Yesterday when I got home from work/golf/clubhouse-bar there was a nice little surprise in my mailbox.  The HD-DVD of Happy Feet from the nice folks at Netflix arrived, so Jen and I were really looking forward to being able to watch our first HD-DVD on the MC box.  It was a disaster!  After spending a total of about 6 hours on Monday and Tuesday on the phone with Cyberlink support just getting PowerDVD 7 Ultra to accept my installation key in preparation for this moment, the DVD did not play on my system.  It returned an error saying that my system does not meet the minimum requirements to play HD or BD content.  You're joking, right?  Let's see, AMD 4600+ 2.4Ghz x2 CPU, 2GB 800Mhz dual channel RAM, nVidia 7600GT PCIe graphics, analog component connection to a display (no HDCP in play there!) sure sounds like enough horsepower to me!  But, just to be sure, I ran their HD/BD advisor and discovered that my system did certainly meet the requirements.  So, back on the phone with Cyberlink.  It was getting a bit late, and they close their phones at 11PM EDT (GMT -5) but I caught them in time.  The initial solution was to download the latest patch for PowerDVD 7 Ultra.  OK, sounds valid...  I downloaded and applied it, and got the exact same result.  No love.  Then, the support person told me that it was getting a bit late, so I'd have to call back tomorrow.  Sorry, but I don't think so.  At that point, he merely asked me for a screen shot of the error, and nothing more.  He said he needed to get it to development.  Now, forgive me if I'm wrong here, but generally if support goes to development with nothing but a screenshot of an error, no configuration data, no recreate steps, no info about the environment, support is going to get chucked out of the developer's office faster than the latest Apprentice loser!  At that point, I took the liberty of emailing him the screen shot, the resulting file from the HD/BD advisor and the output of a dxDiag.  Now he should have enough to approach development and I'm supposed to call back in today.
 
However, in my travels online this morning, I made an interesting discovery.  It appears that one of my all time most useful-favorite-easy-versitile applicaitons has added another blade to it's already potent swiss-army-knife-life existance.  Nero 7 has added Blu Ray/HD DVD support!  As I already own Nero 7 Ultra Enhanced, I don't believe that this addition will cost me a dime.  Unfortunately, I'm about 8 miles from my home PC right now, so I can't go and try it, but it's definitely going to be the first thing on my to-do list when I get home today.  If this works out, I plan on altering Mike's Vista HD DVD workaround to suit Nero, and get my $99.99 back from the friendly-but-clueless folks at Cyberlink.  Results will be documented later tonight.
Published Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:44 AM by ghostlobster
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mikinho said:

Any update on HD playback in Nero 7?
April 25, 2007 1:39 PM
 

ghostlobster said:

Well, after a few hours of tinkering last night, I'm thinking that HD DVD is not yet ready for primetime on the PC.  I had very little luck with Nero, unfortunately.  It just launches and gives me a blank screen.  I'll work with them through email, but I'm not going to devote a bunch of time to it.

I was finally able to get PowerDVD working last night after another 2 hour phone marathon with their tech support.  However, in order for it to work, I had to rollback to the nVidia WDM drivers.  This creates an issue for me, however, as these drivers are completely unuseable within Media Center.  With the 158.18 drivers, I would just get a green screen rather than a video.  Sound was there, but nothing watchable from a video front.  Cyberlink support said that seeing as these drivers are in beta, they can not support them and recommended rolling back.  A totally understandable position.  I tried the 100.65 drivers, and I was getting the dreaded "Display drivers have stopped responding" error when launching PowerDVD.  I rolled back to the WDM driver, and the HD DVD played just fine.  However, I have terrible issues within Media Center with that driver, so there is no way that was staying in place.  However, it was very nice to see the beautiful quality of HD DVD finally.  I was very impressed!
Going forward, I'm going to just leave the HD DVD drive on the 360 and use that.  It's perfectly stable and looks very nice.  From time to time I'll poke my head into the PC implementation of HD DVD and see how it's going, but for now, it's just not ready.
April 26, 2007 6:35 AM
 

ghostlobster said:

Just an update....  After ferreting through the AVS Forum, I found an incredibly active thread regarding this exact issue.  PowerDVD not working with the latest nVidia drivers.  The most successful solution I had seen was to deselect the Enable Hardware Accelleration within the PowerDVD interface. W With a great deal of skepticism, I tried that last night, and low-and-behold, it worked!  We put out feet up and watch Happy Feet in HD last night.  Cute movie and a great introduction to the world of HD DVD from a visual standpoint.
April 27, 2007 6:37 AM
 

The Jedi said:

"Deselect the Enable Hardware Acceleration" that's the first thing I tried after I got a screen full of weird green mpeg blocks.  I assumed that the feature doesn't work on This driver with My card.  I also assumed it was for MPEG-2 movies, but I guess Happy Feet was probably VC-1, being HD-DVD.  I'm on Blu-Ray.  I have a 7900GT.

NetFlix is good.  You're on the right path.
April 29, 2007 5:55 PM
 

mabrown said:

Just curious, did you ever get anywhere with Nero?
May 10, 2007 12:14 PM
 

ghostlobster said:

Actually, yes I finally did.  It was a bit strange, but if I manually skipped ahead to the first chapter, it started playing fine.  It looks pretty good as well.  I was able to utilize hardware acceleration and the playback was nice and smooth.  However, I'm not going to stick with it.  The only MCE remote buttons that seem to work during playback are the chapter skip ones.  Unacceptable.  As much as I dislike Cyberlink, I've got PowerDVD working smoothly and all of the MCE remote functions are supported on it.
May 13, 2007 6:33 PM
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